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Mar 5, 2016 19:59:09   #
DerBiermeister Loc: North of Richmond VA
 
With everything else being pretty much equal, is a 3-section tripod more stable than a 4-section? My logic tells me it should be for two main reasons. There are 3 less joints and the bottom sections will be a larger diameter.

I am deliberating over which Induro pod to buy. Both are carbon fiber and in the same family but the one that has 3-sections will be approx. 4" longer when folded. 28" vs 24". While the 4-section pod is a little over 1" taller with the column retracted -- 63.8" vs 62.6", that should be a wash. Both have identical load ratings at 39.6lbs. And the weight difference is negligible -- 5 lbs for the 4-section and 4.9 lbs for the 3 section.

So if I go with the 3-section, it won't be quite as portable but neither of them are real compact. If carried over the shoulder with the strap, I wouldn't think there would be that much of a difference. I should gain on stability, but I am unsure as to how much?

A second question. RRS pods (and other high-end) do not have a center extending column. If on an Induro, one keeps the center column retracted, and the camera close to the actual legs, does that pretty much eliminate any instability caused by it?

Thanks for your input.

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Mar 5, 2016 20:05:44   #
pithydoug Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY
 
DerBiermeister wrote:
With everything else being pretty much equal, is a 3-section tripod more stable than a 4-section? My logic tells me it should be for two main reasons. There are 3 less joints and the bottom sections will be a larger diameter.

I am deliberating over which Induro pod to buy. Both are carbon fiber and in the same family but the one that has 3-sections will be approx. 4" longer when folded. 28" vs 24". While the 4-section pod is a little over 1" taller with the column retracted -- 63.8" vs 62.6", that should be a wash. Both have identical load ratings at 39.6lbs. And the weight difference is negligible -- 5 lbs for the 4-section and 4.9 lbs for the 3 section.

So if I go with the 3-section, it won't be quite as portable but neither of them are real compact. If carried over the shoulder with the strap, I wouldn't think there would be that much of a difference. I should gain on stability, but I am unsure as to how much?

A second question. RRS pods (and other high-end) do not have a center extending column. If on an Induro, one keeps the center column retracted, and the camera close to the actual legs, does that pretty much eliminate any instability caused by it?

Thanks for your input.
With everything else being pretty much equal, is a... (show quote)


I don't know about Enduro T's but my Manfrotto center can come out to a 90 degree or more in the case you want to shoot an object say in the middle of a table and you can stand on the table, yet want to shoot down. Flowers etc etc

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Mar 5, 2016 20:13:31   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
DerBiermeister wrote:
With everything else being pretty much equal, is a 3-section tripod more stable than a 4-section? My logic tells me it should be for two main reasons. There are 3 less joints and the bottom sections will be a larger diameter.

I am deliberating over which Induro pod to buy. Both are carbon fiber and in the same family but the one that has 3-sections will be approx. 4" longer when folded. 28" vs 24". While the 4-section pod is a little over 1" taller with the column retracted -- 63.8" vs 62.6", that should be a wash. Both have identical load ratings at 39.6lbs. And the weight difference is negligible -- 5 lbs for the 4-section and 4.9 lbs for the 3 section.

So if I go with the 3-section, it won't be quite as portable but neither of them are real compact. If carried over the shoulder with the strap, I wouldn't think there would be that much of a difference. I should gain on stability, but I am unsure as to how much?

A second question. RRS pods (and other high-end) do not have a center extending column. If on an Induro, one keeps the center column retracted, and the camera close to the actual legs, does that pretty much eliminate any instability caused by it?

Thanks for your input.
With everything else being pretty much equal, is a... (show quote)


I totally AGREE that 3 section legs are to be preferred over 4 section legs - if ultimate stability is desired.

Here is what I will say about centerposts:
If you are doing birds or airplanes or you want to shoot OVER something with a little height - then you MUST have a centerpost to gain a comfortable height !
In order to realize the best stability of a centerpost, it needs to be cross-braced to the legs and of considerable length so that a good portion of the post remains in the bottom braced tube when extended. The Manfrotto 475b exemplifies all these attributes !

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Mar 5, 2016 20:18:21   #
DerBiermeister Loc: North of Richmond VA
 
imagemeister wrote:


In order to realize the best stability of a centerpost, it needs to be cross-braced to the legs and of considerable length so that a good portion of the post remains in the bottom braced tube when extended.


Thanks and I will definitely go peek at the ManFrotto.

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Mar 5, 2016 23:01:00   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
DerBiermeister wrote:
With everything else being pretty much equal, is a 3-section tripod more stable than a 4-section? My logic tells me it should be for two main reasons. There are 3 less joints and the bottom sections will be a larger diameter.

I am deliberating over which Induro pod to buy. Both are carbon fiber and in the same family but the one that has 3-sections will be approx. 4" longer when folded. 28" vs 24". While the 4-section pod is a little over 1" taller with the column retracted -- 63.8" vs 62.6", that should be a wash. Both have identical load ratings at 39.6lbs. And the weight difference is negligible -- 5 lbs for the 4-section and 4.9 lbs for the 3 section.

So if I go with the 3-section, it won't be quite as portable but neither of them are real compact. If carried over the shoulder with the strap, I wouldn't think there would be that much of a difference. I should gain on stability, but I am unsure as to how much?

A second question. RRS pods (and other high-end) do not have a center extending column. If on an Induro, one keeps the center column retracted, and the camera close to the actual legs, does that pretty much eliminate any instability caused by it?

Thanks for your input.
With everything else being pretty much equal, is a... (show quote)


Do a search on tripods and Gene51. Much excellent information...

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Mar 5, 2016 23:02:07   #
Haydon
 
Peterff wrote:
Do a search on tripods and Gene51. Much excellent information...


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Mar 5, 2016 23:28:06   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
I say no to center posts. They are typically unstable. I use a Gitzo 1548 with 4 section legs. The bottom sections for the most part are only extended far enough to keep the ferrules out of the dirt. If I do need extra height, I think having the fourth section more stable than a center post. With no center post it is also easy to splay the legs and get very close to the ground.

But, different stroke for different folks. This is just one opinion.


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Mar 5, 2016 23:46:23   #
Haydon
 
Bill_de wrote:
I say no to center posts. They are typically unstable. I use a Gitzo 1548 with 4 section legs. The bottom sections for the most part are only extended far enough to keep the ferrules out of the dirt. If I do need extra height, I think having the fourth section more stable than a center post. With no center post it is also easy to splay the legs and get very close to the ground.

But, different stroke for different folks. This is just one opinion.


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Agreed, I say no to center post as well.

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Mar 5, 2016 23:47:32   #
bruswen Loc: Eugene OR
 
Peterff wrote:
Do a search on tripods and Gene51. Much excellent information...


:thumbup: :thumbup: Gene is very knowledgeable on tripods, you can't go wrong following his advice.

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Mar 6, 2016 03:08:50   #
mcveed Loc: Kelowna, British Columbia (between trips)
 
My Gitzo 2531 came with a centre post which is now in a drawer somewhere. I replaced it with a solid metal plate that sits between the top of the tripod and the ball head. I never used the centre post and it prevented me from getting close to the ground with the tripod. My heavier tripod, a Gitzo 3542LS didn't even come with a centre post. The fewer leg sections the more stable the tripod.

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Mar 6, 2016 05:15:52   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
pithydoug wrote:
I don't know about Enduro T's but my Manfrotto center can come out to a 90 degree or more in the case you want to shoot an object say in the middle of a table and you can stand on the table, yet want to shoot down. Flowers etc etc

Ahhhhhh you don't have to use the fourth section.
and the extendable center does allow a lot of instability.

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Mar 6, 2016 06:27:55   #
queencitysanta Loc: Charlotte, North Carolina
 
No to a center post as well if you want the highest possible quality.

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Mar 6, 2016 06:46:59   #
Marionsho Loc: Kansas
 
DerBiermeister wrote:
With everything else being pretty much equal, is a 3-section tripod more stable than a 4-section? My logic tells me it should be for two main reasons. There are 3 less joints and the bottom sections will be a larger diameter.

I am deliberating over which Induro pod to buy. Both are carbon fiber and in the same family but the one that has 3-sections will be approx. 4" longer when folded. 28" vs 24". While the 4-section pod is a little over 1" taller with the column retracted -- 63.8" vs 62.6", that should be a wash. Both have identical load ratings at 39.6lbs. And the weight difference is negligible -- 5 lbs for the 4-section and 4.9 lbs for the 3 section.

So if I go with the 3-section, it won't be quite as portable but neither of them are real compact. If carried over the shoulder with the strap, I wouldn't think there would be that much of a difference. I should gain on stability, but I am unsure as to how much?

A second question. RRS pods (and other high-end) do not have a center extending column. If on an Induro, one keeps the center column retracted, and the camera close to the actual legs, does that pretty much eliminate any instability caused by it?

Thanks for your input.
With everything else being pretty much equal, is a... (show quote)

Keeping in mind that the total load rating is 39+ pounds!!! I really don't think you could go wrong with either choice. I have an Induro rated for a whole lot less, and it works fantastic.
Marion

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Mar 6, 2016 06:49:23   #
par4fore Loc: Bay Shore N.Y.
 
IMO, buy a Gitzo now so you don't wish you had one later. I am a fan of 3 sections and a center post. Use eBay and buy used from someone with 100% feedback.

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Mar 6, 2016 06:50:22   #
kymarto Loc: Portland OR and Milan Italy
 
Four sections are often as stable as three, at least in the tests I have seen, but three sections extend significantly faster than four. It is clear that a center post adds to instability, but you have to consider how much you will extend it in normal use, how heavy your rig is, and balance that against the convenience of a center post. I have tripods with and without, and unless I am setting up a 500mm lens in a very relaxed situation I almost always opt for the speed of a center post--especially in situations (indoor events for instance) where I will have to change heights frequently as I move around. You don't often need ultimate stability, or at least it is better to get the shot instead of missing it adjusting three legs.

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