greymule Loc: Colorado

Hello Hoggers (Ugly Bunch that you are) -

I checked the archives, but didn't see an answer to this question:

I use PS CS5 with ICC Adobe 1998 as working color profile.

I am having prints made on a Lightjet 5000, using Fuji Crystal Archival Paper. The printer ICC color profile is NOT Adobe 1998.

When I assign the printer's profile to the image, the color rendition and saturation change.

Okay. So here's my question:

Do I tone the image in Adobe 1998 and then assign the color profile, or do I tone the image with the printer profile; which profile will the image look like when it's printed- the Adobe 1998 or printer profile? My goal obviously is to have the print look like what I see on my monitor.

Help, tips. suggestions, pointers, tutorials, references, etc. will be greatly repreciated (that's appreciated redoubled).

Rico, the confused Greymule

mborn Loc: Massachusetts

Check out this site and download the PDF Printing Worksheet http://www.moosepeterson.com/blog/about/mooses-print-lab/ great hints on how to print. You also should be able to download the ICC for the paper youare using on that printer from Fuji

senad55verizon.net Loc: Milford, NJ

Yeah, you need some work with basic explanations of the digital color process..

Adobe 1998 isn't a color profile, but a color space. So is sRGB, the one you really need to use for just about any picture to be displayed on a computer monitor. Adobe 1998 has a wider gamut (range of colors) that it can produce, but the differences are pretty small.

1) In brief, start by calibrating your monitor. You'll need to buy some gear and the software that goes with it. Xrite Photo has a lot of stuff like that. It helps a lot to have a high quality monitor.

2) As indicated in an earlier post, try to find an icc profile for the paper and printer combination you are using. As an alternative, have a custom profile made for the combination. The service is easily found on the net: google "custom printer profiles". Engage the service and follow their directions to the letter.

Finally consider using custom printing services as an alternative to doing it yourself. In a word, it's an expensive pain in the posterior to do what you're trying to do and unless you intend to do a lot of printing, just not worth the effort and expense.

Gary Truchelut Loc: Coldspring, TX

I have to agree with all the above with the exception that it is too much trouble to print your own images.. I happen to love the printing process. It is a real blast when you get exactly what you wanted. There is a learning curve, but that's what keeps me going. To each his own.

docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado

1 you can obtain the Fujilight jet profile from Reed Photo Imaging.
2) when making color corrections for the lightjet I simply open a second file of the image in Adobe 1998 Color space and using that to compare - I make the adjustments on the one I want printed. 3) assign the color profile - then make color corrections

And since you presumably live close to Reeds - just go there - ask for Bob Jewett and he can answer your questions more.

greymule Loc: Colorado

1 you can obtain the Fujilight jet profile from Reed Photo Imaging.
2) when making color corrections for the lightjet I simply open a second file of the image in Adobe 1998 Color space and using that to compare - I make the adjustments on the one I want printed. 3) assign the color profile - then make color corrections

And since you presumably live close to Reeds - just go there - ask for Bob Jewett and he can answer your questions more.[/quote]

Thanks, Doc. Let me be sure I'm following you.

I have the profile from Reed downloaded and available. After I assign the Reed profile to the image to be printed, do I then make corrections to that image, so that the image to be printed looks like the Abode 1998 color profile image?

I have talked with Bob J many times, and he is a huge help.

docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado

Thanks, Doc. Let me be sure I'm following you.

I have the profile from Reed downloaded and available. After I assign the Reed profile to the image to be printed, do I then make corrections to that image, so that the image to be printed looks like the Abode 1998 color profile image?

I have talked with Bob J many times, and he is a huge help.[/quote]

yes

greymule Loc: Colorado

I have the profile from Reed downloaded and available. After I assign the Reed profile to the image to be printed, do I then make corrections to that image, so that the image to be printed looks like the Abode 1998 color profile image?

yes[/quote]


Actually, I mis-spoke: After I assign the Reed profile, then I tone THAT profile to match the Adobe 1998 color space image appearance.

By George, I think I've got it.

A tip of the lens cap to you, Robbie Lad. And, of course, a big thankyee.

I'm tryin' to get another old fella to accompany me down Durango way this summer. Take the train to Needleton and hike over westerly to the Three Apostles area. Maybe, if you're nice in the meantime, I'll buy you a beer or two and shake your hand while I'm down S-W CO way.

If you're not too skeered ta drink wid a crazed poirson.

Rico

docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado

Actually, I mis-spoke: After I assign the Reed profile, then I tone THAT profile to match the Adobe 1998 color space image appearance.

By George, I think I've got it.

A tip of the lens cap to you, Robbie Lad. And, of course, a big thankyee.

I'm tryin' to get another old fella to accompany me down Durango way this summer. Take the train to Needleton and hike over westerly to the Three Apostles area. Maybe, if you're nice in the meantime, I'll buy you a beer or two and shake your hand while I'm down S-W CO way.

If you're not too skeered ta drink wid a crazed poirson.

Rico[/quote]

that would be silverton not needleton - best sober up a bit before taking the train - it's expensive air lifting drunk hikers out of the mountains. No promises on being nice - but i am generally a kind and compassionate soul - until some drunk denverite forgets to stop for our pedestrians. Very little skeers me except maybe the prospect of Mitt Romney and Bohnner running the country so sure i'll have a beer with a crazed poison - as long as you buy.

greymule Loc: Colorado

that would be silverton not needleton - best sober up a bit before taking the train - it's expensive air lifting drunk hikers out of the mountains. No promises on being nice - but i am generally a kind and compassionate soul - until some drunk denverite forgets to stop for our pedestrians. Very little skeers me except maybe the prospect of Mitt Romney and Bohnner running the country so sure i'll have a beer with a crazed poison - as long as you buy.[/quote]


Needleton is the stop halfway between Durango and Silverton where one embarks for Chicago Basin, and to the left for the Three Apostles.

Cheers- and yes, I stop for peds and I'll buy.