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Feb 28, 2016 17:20:20   #
Peeb Loc: NE Oklahoma
 
Flare in the DX Tokina wide angle is an known issue. Realizing this, however, my tokina 11-16 for nikon dx mount seems to flare like crazy. How crazy? See attached. I use the lens hood, if that matters.

Aperture: 2.8
Shutter 1/60
Flash: none
ISO: 1600

Is this an unusual amount of green lens flare?
Is the fact that the bulbs are LED contributing?

Flare 1 (center below lights)
Flare 1 (center below lights)...
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Flare 2 (to the left)
Flare 2 (to the left)...
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Feb 28, 2016 17:27:24   #
Sheila Loc: Arizona or New York
 
If you are not careful all lenses are subject to lens flare. Wide angle lenses are especially prone to this because of the way the lens glass is curved out. Lens shades will help and changing the angle at which you shoot is another. If you are out side you could try to shade your lens with something besides a lens shade like a large hat.

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Feb 28, 2016 18:14:57   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
Peeb wrote:
Flare in the DX Tokina wide angle is an known issue. Realizing this, however, my tokina 11-16 for nikon dx mount seems to flare like crazy. How crazy? See attached. I use the lens hood, if that matters.

Aperture: 2.8
Shutter 1/60
Flash: none
ISO: 1600

Is this an unusual amount of green lens flare?
Is the fact that the bulbs are LED contributing?


Lens flare is absolutely normal when shooting into a bright light source, regardless of the lens used. The green could be caused by a filter on the lens or the WB setting.

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Feb 28, 2016 19:16:22   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
Peeb wrote:
Flare in the DX Tokina wide angle is an known issue. Realizing this, however, my tokina 11-16 for nikon dx mount seems to flare like crazy. How crazy? See attached. I use the lens hood, if that matters.

Aperture: 2.8
Shutter 1/60
Flash: none
ISO: 1600

Is this an unusual amount of green lens flare?
Is the fact that the bulbs are LED contributing?


A lens hood won't do any good if the light source causing the flare is in the photo. Looks like it shouldn't be too much trouble to remove in post processing.

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Feb 28, 2016 19:23:00   #
Peeb Loc: NE Oklahoma
 
MT Shooter wrote:
Lens flare is absolutely normal when shooting into a bright light source, regardless of the lens used. The green could be caused by a filter on the lens or the WB setting.


No filter in place, so maybe the auto WB setting.

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Feb 28, 2016 19:26:33   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
Peeb wrote:
No filter in place, so maybe the auto WB setting.


The overall WB looks pretty good. You wouldn't want to fool with the WB just to alter the color of the flares.

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Feb 28, 2016 20:34:22   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
MT Shooter wrote:
Lens flare is absolutely normal when shooting into a bright light source, regardless of the lens used. The green could be caused by a filter on the lens or the WB setting.


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

Right, why would you take such shot and not know the answer?

:?: :?: :?:

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Feb 28, 2016 21:17:50   #
Peeb Loc: NE Oklahoma
 
Here is my attempt to delete the green in PSE. Turned out OK

photoshopped
photoshopped...
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Feb 28, 2016 21:20:21   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
Peeb wrote:
Here is my attempt to delete the green in PSE. Turned out OK


Nice job on the removal, but what is up with the picture in general? Is it the saturation slider pushed too much or too much noise reduction? There is no detail.

PS: was it handheld? Why ISO 1600?

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Feb 28, 2016 21:44:33   #
Peeb Loc: NE Oklahoma
 
tdekany wrote:
Nice job on the removal, but what is up with the picture in general? Is it the saturation slider pushed too much or too much noise reduction? There is no detail.

PS: was it handheld? Why ISO 1600?


Ha ha! Laying on my bed posting- looked up and saw a light source, clicked at it for an example. To say the composition is flawed is an understatement! :D

Yeah, did't pay attention to any detail other than the green blobs.

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Feb 28, 2016 21:48:57   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
Peeb wrote:
Ha ha! Laying on my bed posting- looked up and saw a light source, clicked at it for an example. To say the composition is flawed is an understatement! :D

Yeah, did't pay attention to any detail other than the green blobs.


:thumbup:

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Feb 28, 2016 22:47:45   #
PVR8 Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
I have that same lens and only had a flare problem once while I was outside in the yard shooting in bright sunlight. The problem was due to my not having the lens hood in place. I have never had any flare issue while I use a lens hood. Many professional real estate photographers use this lens so there shouldn't be much of a flare issue when used correctly.
Peeb wrote:
Flare in the DX Tokina wide angle is an known issue. Realizing this, however, my tokina 11-16 for nikon dx mount seems to flare like crazy. How crazy? See attached. I use the lens hood, if that matters.

Aperture: 2.8
Shutter 1/60
Flash: none
ISO: 1600

Is this an unusual amount of green lens flare?
Is the fact that the bulbs are LED contributing?

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Feb 28, 2016 23:03:36   #
Peeb Loc: NE Oklahoma
 
PVR8 wrote:
I have that same lens and only had a flare problem once while I was outside in the yard shooting in bright sunlight. The problem was due to my not having the lens hood in place. I have never had any flare issue while I use a lens hood. Many professional real estate photographers use this lens so there shouldn't be much of a flare issue when used correctly.


Since I've never had the hood off, I suppose either the lens is defective or I'm using it incorrectly. Likely the latter.

I know that flare/ghosts is a known issue with all wide-angle lenses and this model in particular, but I just that that inducing ghosts with a mere lightbulb was a bit much.

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Feb 28, 2016 23:10:17   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
Peeb wrote:
Since I've never had the hood off, I suppose either the lens is defective or I'm using it incorrectly. Likely the latter.

I know that flare/ghosts is a known issue with all wide-angle lenses and this model in particular, but I just that that inducing ghosts with a mere lightbulb was a bit muh.


Again, the lens hood won't prevent flare from a light source in the photo. It's meant to block flare from light sources outside the photo. I don't think you are doing anything incorrectly, it just must be a characteristic of the lens that it gets flare when shooting directly at some light sources.

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Feb 29, 2016 00:59:06   #
Peeb Loc: NE Oklahoma
 
Honestly, I bought this lens primarily for night photography anyhow.

As you can see, (fig. 1), if you hit a street light dead-on, the little green ghosts will appear (random shot from my yard for illustrative purposes).

You can sometimes 'hide' the light (fig 2, also from the yard)

Finally, turn that turkey heavenward (fig 3). Ah yes, THAT'S why I wanted that lens...

1 random from my yard
1 random from my yard...

2 hiding light behind a tree
2 hiding light behind a tree...

3 stars above the house
3 stars above the house...

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