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Feel That Sax
Feb 22, 2016 07:24:55   #
Voss
 
Powerful music. C & c welcome.



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Feb 22, 2016 15:00:51   #
Nightski
 
I would love to dance with this guy .. lol .. it looks like fun! I think a more shallow DOF and I would clone out the cords. I do like the motion blur in the hands. I think it's perfect.

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Feb 22, 2016 19:37:36   #
Voss
 
Nightski wrote:
I would love to dance with this guy .. lol .. it looks like fun! I think a more shallow DOF and I would clone out the cords. I do like the motion blur in the hands. I think it's perfect.


Good suggestions. And he was having fun. He danced for quite a while.

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Feb 22, 2016 21:11:12   #
Nightski
 
Voss wrote:
Good suggestions. And he was having fun. He danced for quite a while.


I was dead serious .. I would have joined him. LOL

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Feb 22, 2016 22:34:30   #
Voss
 
Nightski wrote:
I was dead serious .. I would have joined him. LOL


That would have been something to see.

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Feb 25, 2016 15:38:06   #
LarryN Loc: Portland OR & Carbondale, CO
 
Nice catch. What lens & shutter speed. Also like the slight blur in his hand. And how far were you from the subject? :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Feb 25, 2016 21:11:46   #
Voss
 
LarryN wrote:
Nice catch. What lens & shutter speed. Also like the slight blur in his hand. And how far were you from the subject? :thumbup: :thumbup:


Thank, Larry. Shot at 1/180 at F 6.7 and ISO 200. The lens as used was 55mm, but not sure which lens I had on the camera. It was an overcast day. I'm guessing I was about 15 ft away. He was moving around quite a bit.

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Feb 26, 2016 14:24:13   #
Nightski
 
I like it .. you're getting closer to the subject.

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Feb 26, 2016 18:55:32   #
Voss
 
Nightski wrote:
I like it .. you're getting closer to the subject.


Thanks. I like closing in on the subject, but am also trying to keep with the theme of "street." It's kind of a balancing act.

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Feb 26, 2016 21:30:07   #
Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
Voss wrote:
Thanks. I like closing in on the subject, but am also trying to keep with the theme of "street." It's kind of a balancing act.

For Street, the subject is life, not the person. It's the relationship(s) between the surroundings that is the subject. The man dancing has a fascinating relationship to the two musicians behind him, connected via the physical location and equipment that make what each of them are doing possible.

I like the shot as is. For Street it might have been better to take in a very slight amount more of the context, such as the entire name that is on that wall next to the man, and maybe something that more clearly shows whether there are other people in the audience or other musicians, or not. Granted that is as much personal style as anything though, and the photographer's opinion is the only one that really counts as to which way is best to go here! It was your choice and I'm willing view it as just that: an example of your style and your set of choices.

Even slightly closer and most pretensions of it being Street would be gone. That would also be true of shooting from a different angle that didn't include the musicians.

In the end... it's a great bit of Street as is, and demonstrates a photographer's good style and taste.

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Feb 26, 2016 21:47:39   #
Nightski
 
Voss wrote:
Thanks. I like closing in on the subject, but am also trying to keep with the theme of "street." It's kind of a balancing act.


Voss, you can get closer and still include environment if you are using a wide angle lens. The thing that I noticed was that you were using a 55 mm. I have seen you make a comment before that you are usually at a longer focal length. I think the best Street shots happen when you are engaging your subject. A wide angle lens helps you include your environment and engage your subject.

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Feb 26, 2016 23:05:33   #
Voss
 
Apaflo wrote:
For Street, the subject is life, not the person. It's the relationship(s) between the surroundings that is the subject. The man dancing has a fascinating relationship to the two musicians behind him, connected via the physical location and equipment that make what each of them are doing possible.


Thanks, Apaflo. I follow what you're saying regarding this shot (thanks for the assessment), but still have a problem applying it to some other photos. I imagine sooner or later, I'll have a "eureka" moment. Will hang in till then.

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Feb 27, 2016 05:09:30   #
Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
Nightski wrote:
Voss, you can get closer and still include environment if you are using a wide angle lens. The thing that I noticed was that you were using a 55 mm. I have seen you make a comment before that you are usually at a longer focal length. I think the best Street shots happen when you are engaging your subject. A wide angle lens helps you include your environment and engage your subject.

The above is not consistent with physics. Perspective changes with distance, not with the focal length of the lens. Changing the focal length merely sets the framing of the chosen perspective. When the camera is moved closer to any object, that object becomes larger in perspective. If object A is twice as close as object B, object A is much larger than B. If the difference in distance is only slight, the difference in size is only slight. Standing back, with a longer lens gets the same context, with a very different perspective.

If the point is to show the character of an individual, which is a portrait of that individual, then closer might be better.

Street is generally, though not always, not about "engaging" with a subject. Life is the subject, and can't be engaged as such anyway, and if the subject engaged is a person it becomes a portrait rather than Street and loses any pretense to being candid.

Here's a very significant and profound comment on exactly that, from Ming Thein of Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. The full essay is at

http://blog.mingthein.com/2015/07/14/the-evolution-of-street-photography/

And includes a number of images from "The Idea of Man" project. It might also be helpful to view the About page (accessed from the main web page) to see the credentials of Ming Thein.

From the essay titled "The Evolution of Street Photography".

Getting closer is not a solution: the amount of context
diminishes. Going wider is not a counterbalancing option,
either: the relative prominence of foreground subject and
background context is disrupted and may not be in the initially
desired balance. ...

The upshot is that I need to consider images with a much greater
scale or sweep; the more macro-context, the better. This must
come with a longer focal length so that the contextual elements
remain in balance with the subject. As a result, the focus of
the image is less about the individual and more about what that
individual could represent; a sort of Everyman. Facial
expressions are far less critical because they're less obvious;
body language still matters, but this eases up on the
criticality of timing. It is a photograph to encapsulate an era
rather than a single instant.

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Feb 27, 2016 09:10:02   #
Voss
 
Nightski wrote:
Voss, you can get closer and still include environment if you are using a wide angle lens.


The next time I go on a "shoot," I'll give it a try. But I think it's more a case of redefining what the subject matter is. I need to raise the importance of the environment.

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