Okay, after three years of shooting pics, I am finally ready to print. I have searched on the internet, but I have failed do find the exact answers I seek.
I am going to use Lightroom to print, so please don't give me advice for other programs.
When choosing a media type in the Print Job menu of Lightroom it gives you two choices. Matte or Glossy. That's it. I chose Matte at first, and my photo had a dark green cast to it. Then I chose Glossy and lightened the photo before printing again. Better, but still dark and a green cast. So now I have done a W/B adjustment and lightened it considerably with exposure and I finally got what I wanted.
Did it ever really matter which setting I chose for media type? Does anyone have any suggestions on what to look for in your image before printing? Any and all wisdom concerning adjustments before print will be greatly appreciated.
flyguy
Loc: Las Cruces, New Mexico
Nightski wrote:
Okay, after three years of shooting pics, I am finally ready to print. I have searched on the internet, but I have failed do find the exact answers I seek.
I am going to use Lightroom to print, so please don't give me advice for other programs.
When choosing a media type in the Print Job menu of Lightroom it gives you two choices. Matte or Glossy. That's it. I chose Matte at first, and my photo had a dark green cast to it. Then I chose Glossy and lightened the photo before printing again. Better, but still dark and a green cast. So now I have done a W/B adjustment and lightened it considerably with exposure and I finally got what I wanted.
Did it ever really matter which setting I chose for media type? Does anyone have any suggestions on what to look for in your image before printing? Any and all wisdom concerning adjustments before print will be greatly appreciated.
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For Epson Luster paper you need to choose glossy and make sure that you have the proper Icc Profile selected for it in the drop-down box in that section of the Lightroom Print module.
May I ask what color gamut are you running on you printer and what are you using for color in camera. Are they both the same? By the way really like the shot.
When I bought a printer, its driver defaulted to controlling the color. When I installed Lightroom, the default was for Lightroom to control the color. A fight was on and I was not the winner.
Until I learned how to put one or the other in charge, nothing worked very well. Once the printer and Lightroom fully understood each other, there were a lot more choices than Matte or Glossy.
tusketwedge wrote:
May I ask what color gamut are you running on you printer and what are you using for color in camera. Are they both the same? By the way really like the shot.
I I am using RGB on my camera. I don't know about my printer. I do know that I followed a tutorial by Julieanne Kost and she recommended letting light room set the color from the light room program. So I chose the setting that does that.
I'll catch hell for this from some folks, but my advice is to let the printer manage the color--it's a choice you can make on the "Print" screen--and don't worry about ICC colors and all that other crap. I get outstanding prints and lots of ribbons doing it that way. When you operate that way, you can go into print settings and select from a range of papers. I'm away from home until Monday, so I can't give you the exact sequence of selections to get to the listing; but it's just a little tricky as the settings page is a tad confusing. If you PM me, I'll get back to you first thing next week.
bsprague wrote:
When I bought a printer, its driver defaulted to controlling the color. When I installed Lightroom, the default was for Lightroom to control the color. A fight was on and I was not the winner.
Until I learned how to put one or the other in charge, nothing worked very well. Once the printer and Lightroom fully understood each other, there were a lot more choices than Matte or Glossy.
This is an interesting reply. I noticed that I did not have some of the settings that Julieanne Kost had in the tutorial. I am wondering if this is because of what you are describing. How do I do what you did?
I was able to choose the type of paper I was using in another menu. I'm away from home now and I can't quite remember what that is but I will find out and post it.
flyguy wrote:
For Epson Luster paper you need to choose glossy and make sure that you have the proper Icc Profile selected for it in the drop-down box in that section of the Lightroom Print module.
Thank you. I will look for that.
Sandra,if you can't figure it out by Sunday ,I'm having the guy that does all my printing coming over to calibrate my new computer.I'll have him contact you by P.M. and I'm sure he will be able to help you.Been in the printing business for about 30 years or so.
Gene51
Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
Nightski wrote:
Okay, after three years of shooting pics, I am finally ready to print. I have searched on the internet, but I have failed do find the exact answers I seek.
I am going to use Lightroom to print, so please don't give me advice for other programs.
When choosing a media type in the Print Job menu of Lightroom it gives you two choices. Matte or Glossy. That's it. I chose Matte at first, and my photo had a dark green cast to it. Then I chose Glossy and lightened the photo before printing again. Better, but still dark and a green cast. So now I have done a W/B adjustment and lightened it considerably with exposure and I finally got what I wanted.
Did it ever really matter which setting I chose for media type? Does anyone have any suggestions on what to look for in your image before printing? Any and all wisdom concerning adjustments before print will be greatly appreciated.
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If you are using the printer mfgr's paper and ink, let the printer driver manage the color.
If you move on to Canson, Ilford, Moab or Hahnemuhle - then you'd be best served by using a third party printing program - Qimage. Sorry, I know you didn't want to hear that - but the difference in output quality between what comes out of Lightroom's print module and Qimage is like night and day. And yes, you can still soft-proof in Qimage like you can in LR.
I have printed out of PHotoshop, DXO, LR and other programs and nothing comes close, other than a hardware RIP. I've been printing in house since 2006, btw.
Gene51 wrote:
If you are using the printer mfgr's paper and ink, let the printer driver manage the color.
If you move on to Canson, Ilford, Moab or Hahnemuhle - then you'd be best served by using a third party printing program - Qimage. Sorry, I know you didn't want to hear that - but the difference in output quality between what comes out of Lightroom's print module and Qimage is like night and day. And yes, you can still soft-proof in Qimage like you can in LR.
I have printed out of PHotoshop, DXO, LR and other programs and nothing comes close, other than a hardware RIP. I've been printing in house since 2006, btw.
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Thank you, Gene. This is a very helpful comment, since I do have a roll of Hahnemuhle and have been having trouble with that as well. However I have to print on CorelDraw there. I will look into the Qimage. I believe lighthouse told me to use that program for the Hahnemuhle, but I didn't want to spend the money. So .. that's two people now. I bought the roll to print a pano for my mother. It turned out well, but I was disppointed in the ones I printed from that printer yesterday. The colours are not quite right. Here is the pano I printed from the 4800 with CorelDraw.
tusketwedge wrote:
Sandra,if you can't figure it out by Sunday ,I'm having the guy that does all my printing coming over to calibrate my new computer.I'll have him contact you by P.M. and I'm sure he will be able to help you.Been in the printing business for about 30 years or so.
That would be great. :-) I am going out of town this weekend and I'll be back Sunday night ... unless I can figure out a way to stay away longer .. lol.
Is it mean to be a color image or black and white? Printing good black and white on inkjet printers can be difficult. It needs the right software, printer, inks and paper. Black and white prints from inkjet printers often have a green, blue or magenta cast.
No, it is not b&w. It really is hard to see because these are cell phone pics of my prints. It does show the effect of the different settings I tried. As you can see, the borders look pink here. They are white, but that's the effect of the cell phone.
One thing I would like to ask you, Darkroom is whether or not to sharpen more for print? Do you sharpen more for Hahnemuhle than you would for luster, matte or glossy?
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