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Feb 19, 2016 08:29:28   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
The new 80D has me interested. However, I am wondering at the base price difference between the 80D ($1,199) and the 7D II ($1,499)

Sure the FPS is slower at 7 vs. 10, but the sensor is larger both in MP (24mp vs 22mp) and (slightly) physically. And the 7DII has more cross type focus points, but the 80D's 45 is nothing to be ashamed of.

In addition the 80D has an articulating touch screen.

I would think the 80D would perform well as an action camera and better as an all round. Perhaps the 7D II base price will drop.

Any thoughts?

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Feb 19, 2016 09:15:56   #
haroldross Loc: Walthill, Nebraska
 
I'm sure the 80D will be a nice camera but it is difficult to compare two 'different' cameras.

It really depends on what you will be using them for. The 80D has a number of features that are good for simple video work such as the touch screen and articulating screen.

The 7D MK II is a heavy duty camera designed for sports and wildlife photography. The 7D MK II is heavily weather sealed and very solid in construction and can take the extreme outdoor weather elements much better than the 80D. The extra megapixels of the 80D do not amount to much in the overall picture, in fact, the extra pixels may have a negative effect on the noise level in the image- we'll know more when it is released soon. The extra frames per second of the 7D MK II is also a plus. The AF system in the 7D MK II is more than about how many 'focus points', it is about how those points are utilized- focus speed and tracking speed.

For a few hundred dollars, I would go with the 7D MK II over the 80D. The 80D will probably work well for sports and wildlife but I believe you will get more keepers with the 7D MK II.

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Feb 19, 2016 09:38:50   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
I agree that the 7D II is better if you do mostly sports and or wildlife. But if you have a more varied subject range, I am wondering if the 80D might not be a better choice. I guess we need to wait for some real life field reports.

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Feb 20, 2016 05:43:17   #
Jerrin1 Loc: Wolverhampton, England
 
Until I changed to M43 ten days ago I had a Canon 7D mark 11 and a Canon 70D. Had I decided to stay with Canon I would have replaced the 70D with the 80D. As someone who mainly shoots wildlife, including BIF, I would not have considered replacing the 7D mark 11 with the 80D. If you are mainly interested in general photography, with only the odd foray into wildlife, then go for the 80D. Otherwise, if you are a Canon user, go for the 7D mark 11. If, however, you are in a position to do so, why not consider the Nikon D500?

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Feb 20, 2016 06:34:53   #
Haydon
 
dsmeltz wrote:
The new 80D has me interested. However, I am wondering at the base price difference between the 80D ($1,199) and the 7D II ($1,499)

Sure the FPS is slower at 7 vs. 10, but the sensor is larger both in MP (24mp vs 22mp) and (slightly) physically. And the 7DII has more cross type focus points, but the 80D's 45 is nothing to be ashamed of.

In addition the 80D has an articulating touch screen.

I would think the 80D would perform well as an action camera and better as an all round. Perhaps the 7D II base price will drop.

Any thoughts?
The new 80D has me interested. However, I am wond... (show quote)


The 80D comes in at $1199 on release and you always pay a penalty for early adoption. It's the same price as the 70D when released back in 2012.

The original release price of the 7DII was $1799 and has dropped signficantly as expected. It might fall some more but it's leveled out.

The 7DII is a niche camera that performs wonderfully aimed at birders & sports enthusiasts in the APS-C market. I do agree the 80D is more of an all around camera but those seeking more specialized use such as BIF will pick the 7DII.

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Feb 20, 2016 07:31:18   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
dsmeltz wrote:
In addition the 80D has an articulating touch screen.

I use the D750 articulating screen quite a bit. Try some sites for comparisons. They'll point out difference you may not have noticed.

(Reviews) http://www.youtube.com/user/TheCameraStoreTV/videos
http://camerasize.com/
http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/COMPS01.HTM
http://snapsort.com/compare
http://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/cameras?utm_campaign=internal-link&utm_source=mainmenu&utm_medium=text&ref=mainmenu
http://www.imaging-resource.com/cameras/compare/

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Feb 20, 2016 09:00:57   #
Lazy J Loc: Pacific Northwest
 
dsmeltz wrote:
The new 80D has me interested. However, I am wondering at the base price difference between the 80D ($1,199) and the 7D II ($1,499)


Your interest is being peaked at the wrong time. As I recall, the 7DII got as low as $1,199 this past Thanksgiving/Christmas including a Pixma 1000 printer!

I replaced a Canon 60D with my 7DII and really miss my articulating screen. Otherwise, the 7DII features are miles ahead.

I have not even seen a review of the 80D yet? If price is a concern, and when is it not, I would stimee your GAS attack for now, let the 80D reviews roll out, and buy whichever one still holds your interest during the next holiday sale.

My two cents worth. Keep the change!

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Feb 20, 2016 10:43:51   #
jgunkler
 
Unless the 80D has a particular feature you just "must" have, but a 70D.

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Feb 20, 2016 11:13:58   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
haroldross wrote:
I'm sure the 80D will be a nice camera but it is difficult to compare two 'different' cameras.

It really depends on what you will be using them for. The 80D has a number of features that are good for simple video work such as the touch screen and articulating screen.

The 7D MK II is a heavy duty camera designed for sports and wildlife photography. The 7D MK II is heavily weather sealed and very solid in construction and can take the extreme outdoor weather elements much better than the 80D. The extra megapixels of the 80D do not amount to much in the overall picture, in fact, the extra pixels may have a negative effect on the noise level in the image- we'll know more when it is released soon. The extra frames per second of the 7D MK II is also a plus. The AF system in the 7D MK II is more than about how many 'focus points', it is about how those points are utilized- focus speed and tracking speed.

For a few hundred dollars, I would go with the 7D MK II over the 80D. The 80D will probably work well for sports and wildlife but I believe you will get more keepers with the 7D MK II.
I'm sure the 80D will be a nice camera but it is d... (show quote)


Well said. :thumbup:

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Feb 20, 2016 11:17:45   #
Basil Loc: New Mexico
 
I know I'm biased because I have a 7D Mark 2. That said, there are some features that 80D has that could be selling points for some over the 7D Mark 2. For example, the 80D has articulating screen where the 7D screen is fixed. The 80D has built-in Wi-Fi the 7DM2 does not. That might be important for some.

The 80 D has touch screen focus which would be great for video. (Personally I don't like touch screen, but that's just personal preference - and I don't do a lot of video).

The 7D M2 is magnesium alloy construction and very well weather sealed. I did not see in the description I read of the 80D if it is likewise constructed? Also, the 80D has a Digic 6 processor, while the 7D M2 has Dual Digic 6 processors.

As others have suggested though - the 7D M2 can be purchased these days for $1100 - 1200. As with most cameras, the price will surely drop for this new 80D in short order, so you might want to cool your GAS jets for a while before jumping in.

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Feb 20, 2016 11:20:46   #
Tracy B. Loc: Indiana
 
I have the 70D and love that camera. I don't do BIF photography, for that the 7d mark II would be good. However, I love the touch screen on the 79d & 80d. I am going to purchase a full frame soon, but keep my 70d. I'm hoping the Canon 5d mark iv will have a touch screen and wifi.

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Feb 20, 2016 11:29:25   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Lazy J wrote:
Your interest is being peaked at the wrong time. As I recall, the 7DII got as low as $1,199 this past Thanksgiving/Christmas including a Pixma 1000 printer!

I replaced a Canon 60D with my 7DII and really miss my articulating screen. Otherwise, the 7DII features are miles ahead.

I have not even seen a review of the 80D yet? If price is a concern, and when is it not, I would stimee your GAS attack for now, let the 80D reviews roll out, and buy whichever one still holds your interest during the next holiday sale.

My two cents worth. Keep the change!
Your interest is being peaked at the wrong time. ... (show quote)


I also upgraded from the 60D to the 7D2 and after almost a year haven't missed the articulating screen at all. I guess it depends on what and how you like to shoot.

Another feature that many talk about with regard to the 70D and now the 80D, is the touch screen. I've played with the touch screen extensively on a friend's 70D and I use one regularly on my Microsoft Surface Pro tablet and my Samsung Galaxy s5 phone, so I'm not opposed to the concept. While opinions differ on touchscreens, I don't miss or need that feature on my 7D2. Every one has different wants and needs. Isn't it great that there is something available for all of us?

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Feb 20, 2016 11:32:06   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
The main difference in cost is the 7 is a semi-pro camera and the 80 is a consumer camera! :lol:
SS

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Feb 20, 2016 12:05:18   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
SharpShooter wrote:
The main difference in cost is the 7 is a semi-pro camera and the 80 is a consumer camera! :lol:
SS


The 80D seems to have many upgraded features, putting it more on a par with the 7D2, like the 45 all cross type focus points (vs the 7D2's 65), the 100% viewfinder, the intelligent viewfinder with a level feature, flicker control, standard ISO to 16000, and f/8 capabilities. With 27 focus points available with a maximum aperture of f/8, it exceeds the 7D2's capabilities. I don't know whether it will support EC in manual mode, which i love on the 7D2, and I doubt the focus system is as sophisticated. Finally, of course the build and controls of the 7D2 is far superior to the 60D and 70D. Since the body of the 80D is very similar to the 70D, I suspect the 7D2 will still be the superior body.

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Feb 20, 2016 13:13:43   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Just checked the manual, and the 80D also supports EC in manual mode with auto ISO like the 7D II and the 1Dx. So while the 7D2 is still a superior body in a number of ways, choosing between it and the 80D will be even a tougher choice for many people than choosing between the 7D2 and 70D was. For many, the more consumer oriented features like Wi-Fi and an articulating touch screen on the 80D will make the choice simple.

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