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Apr 25, 2012 12:05:15   #
OLDJIM Loc: N.London.UK
 
I have a Canon G10. There are over 100 settings and the manual
has nearly 300 pages, which I had to print myself!
All I want is a digital version of my old PENTAX SPOTMATIC.
with a knurled ring for f number, focus, shutter speed, and a
needle to centre for exposure. Why has life got so complex.
Also whilst I'm having a rant - I can't read any menus in Sunlight,
I carry a Kaiser 2x2 slide viewer with the Opal screen taken out
to read the screen info.

Grumpy........... OLDJIM

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Apr 25, 2012 12:24:55   #
OLDJIM Loc: N.London.UK
 
I have a Canon G10. There are over 100 settings and the manual
has nearly 300 pages, which I had to print myself!
All I want is a digital version of my old PENTAX SPOTMATIC.
with a knurled ring for f number, focus, shutter speed, and a
needle to centre for exposure. Why has life got so complex.
Also whilst I'm having a rant - I can't read any menus in Sunlight,
let alone compose, I carry a Kaiser 2x2 slide viewer with the Opal screen taken out
to read the screen info. Thank God for a viewfinder at least.
A big digital reflex camera is too heavy to keep on my person
when walking and cycling.

Grumpy........... OLDJIM

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Apr 25, 2012 12:35:55   #
GrandmaJoy Loc: North Carolina
 
It is ok to be grumpy. My husband had a Pentax with the needle to centre exposure. Too bad someone borrowed it and didn't return it. It was a good one.

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Apr 25, 2012 13:11:10   #
14kphotog Loc: Marietta, Ohio
 
Sounds like a K1000 Pentax camera. Too bad, they are still a good beginers film camera.

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Apr 25, 2012 13:30:38   #
sinatraman Loc: Vero Beach Florida, Earth,alpha quaudrant
 
shoot with your pentax spotmatic, have film processed to digital cd only. you now have the best of both worlds. any more problems i can solve for you?

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Apr 25, 2012 13:34:18   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
OLDJIM wrote:
I have a Canon G10. There are over 100 settings and the manual
has nearly 300 pages, which I had to print myself!
All I want is a digital version of my old PENTAX SPOTMATIC.
with a knurled ring for f number, focus, shutter speed, and a
needle to centre for exposure. Why has life got so complex.
Also whilst I'm having a rant - I can't read any menus in Sunlight,
I carry a Kaiser 2x2 slide viewer with the Opal screen taken out
to read the screen info.

Grumpy........... OLDJIM
I have a Canon G10. There are over 100 settings an... (show quote)



NO! you are NOT asking too much...I WISH I had a camera like that...oh wait...there IS one...

It's called a Leica M9 but I can't afford it....waaaaa!!!!
:cry:


That's my dream camera...no frills, no buttons, no auto modes...just sick image quality.

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Apr 25, 2012 14:03:57   #
Catch_A_Photo Loc: Virginia
 
Here is an idea if you have at least a large monitor I shoot pages of the manual - the Pages that I think I will need and store them on my camera for times when I need to use them. You have to make the print on the monitor large enough to read easily. This way I always have the instructions I need at my finger tips.

Example using this email
Example using this email...

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Apr 26, 2012 06:27:07   #
penguinpete
 
I agree that dSLRs are too feature-laden, and would welcome a digital version of a Pentax Spotmatic or other "bare-bones" camera. I would also appreciate the ability to buy a body-only camera, and then add on MY choice of "normal" lens. To the best of my knowledge (which, I will admit, is not comprehensive), the body-only option is only available in full-frame dSLRs, and their prices negate the advantage I am seeking.

-- Pete

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Apr 26, 2012 06:36:40   #
alggomas Loc: Wales, United Kingdom.
 
Even feature laden, you can stick to the features you know. Perhaps there is only a need to use maybe 5 or 6 ?

I understand the frustration. I have a Konika Minolta Z2. A terrific camera [depends what you want]. With loads and loads of features and reading material that takes ages to plough through ! I only use the features I need.

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Apr 26, 2012 07:56:22   #
penguinpete
 
My point, and I believe OLDJIM's as well, is that to get to only those features desired, one has to wade through menus to get there. Putting shutter speeds on a knob, as on the old manual 35s, and f-stops on a lens ring, as on the old manual 35s, would be sufficient to satisfy my needs - I shot for years using that arrangement, and didn't even keep the camera battery installed - I used an external 1 degree spot meter. With digital, a camera battery is a necessity, but the camera designers at Canon, Nikon, Pentax, etc., all seem to be infected with "feeping creaturitis" - a disease that first manifested itself in software engineers.

-- Pete

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Apr 26, 2012 12:02:05   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
Another old guy that doesn't like change! :) Sounds like me.

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Apr 26, 2012 12:21:36   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
penguinpete wrote:
I agree that dSLRs are too feature-laden, and would welcome a digital version of a Pentax Spotmatic or other "bare-bones" camera. I would also appreciate the ability to buy a body-only camera, and then add on MY choice of "normal" lens. To the best of my knowledge (which, I will admit, is not comprehensive), the body-only option is only available in full-frame dSLRs, and their prices negate the advantage I am seeking.

-- Pete


You can buy "body only" on any Canon DSLR that I know of...If I could do it over...I'd have done that from the start.

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Apr 26, 2012 12:37:39   #
GDRoth Loc: Southeast Michigan USA
 
you can buy just about any of the better DSLRs with body only..........go to Adorama or B&H............

The M9 type camera for OLDJIM is the Fuji X100......

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Apr 26, 2012 12:42:08   #
myts10 Loc: SE Ohio
 
Yea, I have always liked the KISS principal. The R&D people have to keep things complicated or they would be out of work.

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Apr 26, 2012 13:34:02   #
GrainyKev Loc: Droitwich Spa. UK
 
The X100 does what you want if you can live with a fixed 35mm (equivalent) lens.
Aperture, shutter speed and over/under adjustments are all on knurled wheels.
Optical viewfinder, digital TTL viewfinder or digital rear screen.
One cute thing on the digital view finder is that it shows you in real time what your settings will produce - you don't actually have to take the picture and check it. You can set your photo up by what you see.
Yes I have just bought one - it took me 13 months to convince myself but hey, you are a long time looking at the lid!

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