I am in agreement with a lot of his positions (not all by any means) but this article does raise legitimate questions as to his citizenship and the circumstances surrounding his original entry into the US from Canada. Is he bankng on the fact the current WH occupant isn't a natural born citizen pave the way for his own quest to occupy it illegally? This is what happens when our leaders look the other way due to political expediency. It starts an avalanche of more of the same.
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/detail/did-ted-cruz-enter-the-us-illegally-in-1974
Illinois Board of E******ns (yes, the same corrupt Illinois, home to our current president):
The Candidate is a natural born citizen by virtue of being born in Canada to his mother who was a U.S. citizen at the time of his birth, the board said, explaining Cruz met the criteria because he did not have to take any steps or go through a naturalization process at some point after birth.
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I don't see what all the fuss is about... Cruz is only for himself... what's more American than that?
It's not like he's a sleeper Manchurian candidate for Castro.
davefales wrote:
Illinois Board of E******ns (yes, the same corrupt Illinois, home to our current president):
The Candidate is a natural born citizen by virtue of being born in Canada to his mother who was a U.S. citizen at the time of his birth, the board said, explaining Cruz met the criteria because he did not have to take any steps or go through a naturalization process at some point after birth.
The article stands in opposition to that position. He is presumptuous on the meaning of natural born also as it is a legitimate question to be resolved. If you look into the history of that term and use when it was penned it probably means something different than simply born a US citizen.
gmcase wrote:
I am in agreement with a lot of his positions (not all by any means) but this article does raise legitimate questions as to his citizenship and the circumstances surrounding his original entry into the US from Canada. Is he bankng on the fact the current WH occupant isn't a natural born citizen pave the way for his own quest to occupy it illegally? This is what happens when our leaders look the other way due to political expediency. It starts an avalanche of more of the same.
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There is no question that Cruz is an American citizen (in my mind). The question is, is he a natural born citizen? That is another thing.
The Constitution doesn't define 'natural born citizen.'
If we go to 'common law, (and the Supreme Court has already said, that is the mine that must produce the ore to settle this) the issue isn't clear.
(There are question about John McCain and Barry Goldwater, but they involve totally different points of law, and it seems they both qualify; much as it disappoints conservatives, there doesn't seem to be any serious question about Obama.)
In common law (English Law at the time the Constitution was written, as I understand it) there are serious issues.
In summary, if the issue is decided on a conservative basis (appropriate for Conservative Ted Cruz) he probably won't qualify; if the issue is settled on a liberal basis (anathema for Cruz) he might, possibly or probably win.
Can Republicans afford to nominate a candidate with this h*****g over his head? What if Cruz is nominated, then loses the (inevitable) suit over his status?
Where does that leave the Republican Party?
Another convention?
Before November?
Panic time?
Tune in folks!
Twardlow wrote:
There is no question that Cruz is an American citizen (in my mind). The question is, is he a natural born citizen? That is another thing.
The Constitution doesn't define 'natural born citizen.'
If we go to 'common law, (and the Supreme Court has already said, that is the mine that must produce the ore to settle this) the issue isn't clear.
(There are question about John McCain and Barry Goldwater, but they involve totally different points of law, and it seems they both qualify; much as it disappoints conservatives, there doesn't seem to be any serious question about Obama.)
In common law (English Law at the time the Constitution was written, as I understand it) there are serious issues.
In summary, if the issue is decided on a conservative basis (appropriate for Conservative Ted Cruz) he probably won't qualify; if the issue is settled on a liberal basis (anathema for Cruz) he might, possibly or probably win.
Can Republicans afford to nominate a candidate with this h*****g over his head? What if Cruz is nominated, then loses the (inevitable) suit over his status?
Where does that leave the Republican Party?
Another convention?
Before November?
Panic time?
Tune in folks!
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I don't question his US citizenship but the "natural born" does need to be defined clearly. The question of whether or not he entered the US legally is more of a side issue but if he entered illegally then the irony is unmistakable. Regardless he should get this cleared up before long or serious trouble could be ahead, not only for him but the country.
From what I have determined, at this time, I think natiral born leans heavily toward one born where both parents are US citiizens at the time of the birth. This is from the context of information and thinking at the time it was penned, the only way to accurately determine intent at this much later date. This would nix Obama's legitimacy not to mention Rubio and Jindal also. I highly doubt the gutless powers that be would go there so the rule of law is reduced to the law of rule.
Just let Trump sue him, he's been blabbing that he's going to.
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