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Feb 8, 2016 12:26:47   #
wowbmw Loc: Grant, Colorado
 
I've yet to try my hand with this style. Some you may already be aware of my favorite subjects of children in their environment so this is way out there for me. Pointers would be appreciated.

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Feb 8, 2016 12:39:47   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
wowbmw wrote:
I've yet so try my hand with this style. Some you may already be aware of my favorite subjects of children in their environment so this is way out there for me. Pointers would be appreciated.


Good start with an interesting image of an interesting character! You've preserved his character, even preserved most of the color, and added the grunge detail effects. I think eventually we'll get some of our folks who're further along in this to give us a tutorial. I'm tinkering with grunge style processing too, though applied mostly to buildings rather than people. It's great fun, but it isn't exactly easy, at least not for me.

You've got the same curse that we've been discussing in some other threads, the glow halo effect. I have seen some grunge artists just give in to it and accept it, where others seem to find ways to fend it off or cure it.

I think we've gotta have a thread on it. We've talked about sharpening halos, but though this is kin, it is not the same problem, and it is harder to prevent and to fix.

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Feb 8, 2016 12:41:47   #
Violameister Loc: michigan
 
I can't give any pointers because I think you have gotten everything just right. The colors, the expression, the crop, etc. I am basically waiting for the Eastwood movie to start...

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Feb 8, 2016 12:55:45   #
wowbmw Loc: Grant, Colorado
 
minniev wrote:
Good start with an interesting image of an interesting character! You've preserved his character, even preserved most of the color, and added the grunge detail effects. I think eventually we'll get some of our folks who're further along in this to give us a tutorial. I'm tinkering with grunge style processing too, though applied mostly to buildings rather than people. It's great fun, but it isn't exactly easy, at least not for me.

You've got the same curse that we've been discussing in some other threads, the glow halo effect. I have seen some grunge artists just give in to it and accept it, where others seem to find ways to fend it off or cure it.

I think we've gotta have a thread on it. We've talked about sharpening halos, but though this is kin, it is not the same problem, and it is harder to prevent and to fix.
Good start with an interesting image of an interes... (show quote)


You are right about the darn halos. Some of this is caused by the light color of the mortar around the bricks in the blurred background. Thanks for your comments. I'm watching for more on how to deal with this.

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Feb 8, 2016 12:56:29   #
wowbmw Loc: Grant, Colorado
 
Violameister wrote:
I can't give any pointers because I think you have gotten everything just right. The colors, the expression, the crop, etc. I am basically waiting for the Eastwood movie to start...


Very funny. Thanks for weighing in.

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Feb 8, 2016 13:01:15   #
Dave Chinn
 
wowbmw wrote:
I've yet to try my hand with this style. Some you may already be aware of my favorite subjects of children in their environment so this is way out there for me. Pointers would be appreciated.


Oh, I am so jealous !!! What a great image you have captured there. The tones and exposure fit very well. The only suggestion I can see and really would't be required because you have done so well with processing this, is to maybe brighten and selectively sharpen the iris of his eyes. That is the only thing. Well done !!! Also, this would be great in B&W.
Dave

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Feb 8, 2016 13:04:30   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
wowbmw wrote:
I've yet to try my hand with this style. Some you may already be aware of my favorite subjects of children in their environment so this is way out there for me. Pointers would be appreciated.


I agree with Minnie. Nice work.
--Bob

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Feb 8, 2016 13:15:11   #
Frank2013 Loc: San Antonio, TX. & Milwaukee, WI.
 
wowbmw wrote:
I've yet to try my hand with this style.
Well if you ever do try your hand at it don't post it here and put all of us to shame. WOW just a great job. minniev and Dave have about said it all. Will be looking for the next one.

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Feb 8, 2016 18:16:51   #
Chuck_893 Loc: Lincoln, Nebraska, USA
 
Yeah! I think it's terrific! I have never tried this so I know less than nothing about it, but the picture is a sheer winner. I did not even see the haloing until Minnie drew my attention to it. I see it now, especially around the hat and saddle. Considering that I didn't even see it until it was pointed out I still think the picture is wonderful, but I can also see how you would want to get rid of it. :thumbup: :thumbup: I think the idea of a tutorial is a good one for folks who want to try this. I might if I had any idea how.

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Feb 8, 2016 19:00:13   #
Billyspad Loc: The Philippines
 
Nice image my man only thing I would do is sharpen the eyes but its not a deal breaker.
Halos seem to go with territory when you get into extreme PP. If a guy called donolea ventures back this way he is the only member I can think of who would be able to cure the deadly halo syndrome. Suspect it would involve his painting with blur technique about which he wrote a tutorial. If that's the case its many hours of careful painting with custom made brushes and not for the faint hearted.

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Feb 8, 2016 19:49:18   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
wowbmw wrote:
You are right about the darn halos. Some of this is caused by the light color of the mortar around the bricks in the blurred background. Thanks for your comments. I'm watching for more on how to deal with this.


OK.

We need to start a thread on this phenomenon. At the risk of drawing fire from those folk who know how to process this stuff without ever creating halos in the first place, I will venture that there are those of us who would like to know how to get rid of them.

The ones you've got are mild and lucky. If you look at what I wrote about getting rid of sharpening halos in Don McVeed's thread, it will work on this one too. I tried it, and pretty much got rid of them in a couple of minutes.

I can promise you this won't work on every grunge -processed image but it will work on this one.

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Feb 8, 2016 21:24:34   #
Billyspad Loc: The Philippines
 
This fix uses the method of fixing burnt areas of sky as outlined in the recent tutorial. This was done very quickly and I would play around with opacity a little and when complete use a Blend Mode on the whole picture or maybe a color filter to hide any joins.
Its fiddly and time consuming moving bits of the background around but it works.


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Feb 8, 2016 21:49:24   #
wowbmw Loc: Grant, Colorado
 
minniev wrote:
OK.

We need to start a thread on this phenomenon. At the risk of drawing fire from those folk who know how to process this stuff without ever creating halos in the first place, I will venture that there are those of us who would like to know how to get rid of them.

The ones you've got are mild and lucky. If you look at what I wrote about getting rid of sharpening halos in Don McVeed's thread, it will work on this one too. I tried it, and pretty much got rid of them in a couple of minutes.

I can promise you this won't work on every grunge -processed image but it will work on this one.
OK. br br We need to start a thread on this pheno... (show quote)


I'll give it a try when things quiet down. Thanks!

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