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Feb 7, 2016 10:57:53   #
alissaspieces Loc: New York
 
Honestly, in a studio situation I wouldn't want to work without a handheld meter to meter all of the lights properly and then adjust as needed. But in landscapes, the best investment you can get is graduated neutral density filters. The difference between the light and dark areas in a scene during sunrise, sunset is huge and your camera will not be able to capture it properly. You can choose to take multiple exposures and then blend later on or you can get some ND filters and help to even out the scene for the camera. They are not cheap but a much better investment for landscape photography in my opinion. My personal method is I use ND fitlers and then I also take a bunch of exposures to see once I get back to the computer which looks the best.

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Feb 7, 2016 11:14:38   #
Carl D Loc: Albemarle, NC.
 
Coming from the film days I wouldn't work without a light meter. Even though I now use digital, I still use a meter. To many false readings with a TTL as it tends to average readings and is usually not accurate on a grey scale unless you do a grey scale reading. I use an old Gossen and my newer Sekonic 478DU which can't be beat if you use the DTS software.

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Feb 7, 2016 12:01:05   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
cwp3420 wrote:
I have never used a hand held light meter before for getting the proper settings for a good photo. I am interested in low light shots of landscaping in thE mountains. If I want to take a photo with my Fujifilm XT- camera and get it right the first time, do I meter the scene with the light meter, and then the light meter give me information such as that I would use an ISO setting of 400 along with a speed of 1/250 of a second and expose for 14 seconds, and if I do that, will it give a pretty accurate photo of what I was looking for? I'm trying to understand what a good light meter will do to aid my photography. Thanks! Carl
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Carl,
Great question and I can only give you my opinion. The answer is yes. For the average, everyday photo, I'll pretty much stick to my in camera meter. However, my metering technique has been adjusted to take advantage of my camera's capabilities.

I've written and article regarding exposure. You can find it here:
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/user_page.jsp?upnum=1527

As for those photographs where the exposure is of great importance, I rely on a Sekonic L-758DR. The reason for this is that the meter has been profiled for my particular camera, a Nikon D700. It also takes into consideration those points mentioned in the article mentioned above.

So, yes, it's an added luxury that provides the optimum exposure. However, like any tool, practice enhances your skills in using it.
--Bob

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Feb 7, 2016 12:52:25   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
cwp3420 wrote:
I have never used a hand held light meter before for getting the proper settings for a good photo. I am interested in low light shots of landscaping in thE mountains. If I want to take a photo with my Fujifilm XT- camera and get it right the first time, do I meter the scene with the light meter, and then the light meter give me information such as that I would use an ISO setting of 400 along with a speed of 1/250 of a second and expose for 14 seconds, and if I do that, will it give a pretty accurate photo of what I was looking for? I'm trying to understand what a good light meter will do to aid my photography. Thanks! Carl
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Most of the time the camera meter will give you enough information for the landscape photography you want to make. If you are always finding yourself in tricky lighting situations, then a separate meter giving you an incident reading or spot readings may get you through those situations. It really comes down to how many times you are in those situations and how important it is to get the shot. If you are making money from those shots, it is probably is worth the investment. If it is really important that you get the shots you want, then spend the money for the meter.

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Feb 7, 2016 14:16:09   #
John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN
 
Capture48 wrote:
I generally don't use light meters for landscape photography. You still have to set two of the exposure triangle and the meter will give you the third. As someone has said you can play around with ISO after the fact and it will change say your shutter or aperture for you. But you have to give it some settings to begin with.

In landscape work I think the in-camera meter will serve you better. Not familiar with your camera, but generally you can use live view and overlay a histogram, and play with settings until the histogram looks good. Generally I decide the DoF I want and set aperture, then ISO. Landscapes usually have the benefit of a tripod so can go to any shutter we need, easy to adjust!
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The histograms show all peaks as clipped at the top. Would this indicate over-exposure?

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Feb 7, 2016 14:41:15   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
Light meters are an invaluable tool, but to use them you really need to understand exposure. Get the book "Understanding Exposure" by Brian Peterson and give it a read before you buy any meter. Modern, in-camera meters are much improved from yesteryear, but there is nothing better than an incident reading when practical. For studio type flash photography, a meter is a necessity. Best of luck.

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Feb 7, 2016 16:15:18   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
John_F wrote:
The histograms show all peaks as clipped at the top. Would this indicate over-exposure?


Having the histogram data crammed against the right side of the graph would indicate over exposure.

However, if you understand your camera's capabilities, it just might mean your at a correct exposure.

http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-342704-1.html

--Bob

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Feb 7, 2016 17:43:28   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
There are a number of ways to make accurate exposures... it pays to know how to use and be comfortable with several of them.

I nearly always carry an incident/flash meter. Now I use a Sekonic L358, which isn't made any longer, but the L308 is almost the same (the L358 can optionally be fitted with a radio trigger, the L308 can't). I also have a couple older Minolta incident/flash meters as backup (were sold as Konica-Minolta for a while... now are made and sold by Kenko).

An incident meter, used right, is a quick way to set an accurate exposure. Incident meters measure the light falling onto a subject, rather than what's being reflected off of it. Because of that there's typically no need for Exposure Compensation, which is usually necessary when using a reflectance meter, such as those built into all cameras. Another benefit with many incident meters is that they often are able to very accurately measure flash (esp. studio strobe lighting of various types).

There are times a separate handheld meter just isn't practical, though... So I feel it's also important to know how to use your camera's built-in reflectance meter. This type of meter is strongly influenced by the tonality of subjects and scenes, so Exposure Compensation is a necessary tool to use the meter well (and, by extension, the various auto exposure modes of your camera). Rather than go into all the details of this here, I suggest you get a copy of Bryan Peterson's "Understanding Exposure", which is all about using the camera's internal metering system. (Edit: I see I'm not the first to recommend this book. I would note that it emphasizes using the camera's built in meter and doesn't pay much attention to accessory meters. Still, IMO it should be required reading for all photographers.)

I've also used 1 degree spot meter a lot in the past. I especially used this type of meter when I was shooting B&W film with the Zone System. However, IMO a spot meter is only a marginally useful method with color film and digital imaging, so I use this type meter a lot less frequently now.

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Feb 7, 2016 22:41:19   #
pebal7-123 Loc: WPG. MB. Canada
 
Light Meter And Exposure Compensation

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Feb 8, 2016 12:41:33   #
John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN
 
rmalarz wrote:
Having the histogram data crammed against the right side of the graph would indicate over exposure.

However, if you understand your camera's capabilities, it just might mean your at a correct exposure.

http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-342704-1.html

--Bob


Most of the histograms show 'pointy' peaks across the horizontal. When some are high enough to look 'chopped' does that mean something for the image. Clustering at one side or the other do tell image information as cited.

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