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Apr 23, 2012 13:00:57   #
achammar Loc: Idaho
 
Ok, I decided to do the deed and actually read my SB600 speed flash manual.
I came across this battery chart. It appears that my speed flash will recycle at different speeds depending on the type of battery I use...news to me...I currently always put new Alkaline batteries in before every shoot, thinking they are the best you can get (other than Lithium), but it looks like the alkaline have almost the slowest recycle time except for Lithium which is even slower (the 2 I thought were the best). Alkaline's are actually a second slower than Nickel or Ni-MH. That's a big difference for me. I could use that faster time in many situations, and the minimum number of flashes is not that much different. (which surprises me a great deal).

So I want to make sure I am understanding this right. I always thought Alkaline were much better than Nickel, NiCd, and Ni-MH, (with Lithium being even better) but according to this chart, they are the worst 2 for recycle times and very little difference in minimum number of flashes (except for the NiCd being a lot lower and the Lithium being a lot higher).
So according to this chart, if I want the fastest recycle time possible, then I need to get either Nickel, or NI-MH...with Ni-MH being the preferred because of it's higher min. number of flashes and decreased cycle time in column 3.
Is that correct? Am I reading this right? This just surprises me a lot! If I can gain 1 second in recycle time, that would be good for me...

Any comments or experiences with different battery types for their flash units, or knowledge of disadvantages if I were to switch to Nickel or Ni-MH?


Thanks!
achammar

Battery chart
Battery chart...

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Apr 23, 2012 13:10:05   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
Thanks for posting!

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Apr 23, 2012 15:36:55   #
CSI Dave Loc: Arizona
 
I also thought that alkalines would give the fastest cycle time. However, I just recently got some of the Sanyo eneloop NiMH 2000mA batteries based on all of the attention they've gotten lately. I put them in my SB600 and was surprised how quick they recycled. Now I know why!

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Apr 23, 2012 15:41:36   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
CSI Dave wrote:
I also thought that alkalines would give the fastest cycle time. However, I just recently got some of the Sanyo eneloop NiMH 2000mA batteries based on all of the attention they've gotten lately. I put them in my SB600 and was surprised how quick they recycled. Now I know why!


I use them. They are great and stay charged for a long time.

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Apr 23, 2012 19:33:31   #
achammar Loc: Idaho
 
CSI Dave wrote:
I also thought that alkalines would give the fastest cycle time. However, I just recently got some of the Sanyo eneloop NiMH 2000mA batteries based on all of the attention they've gotten lately. I put them in my SB600 and was surprised how quick they recycled. Now I know why!


Thanks...that's 2 up for NiMH

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Apr 24, 2012 06:50:09   #
rayford2 Loc: New Bethlehem, PA
 
Check out the newer technology Lithium-Ion batteries (rechargeable with the right charger).

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Apr 24, 2012 08:13:42   #
02Nomad Loc: Catonsville, MD
 
I take alkalines along as "insurance", but I use a Quantum Turbo battery for my 580 EX and 580 EX II. What's a recycle time? Seriously, in a mostly dark room shooting at full power, the recycle time is way less than 1 second.

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Apr 24, 2012 09:28:32   #
achammar Loc: Idaho
 
02Nomad wrote:
I take alkalines along as "insurance", but I use a Quantum Turbo battery for my 580 EX and 580 EX II. What's a recycle time? Seriously, in a mostly dark room shooting at full power, the recycle time is way less than 1 second.


Do yo know if this is this a NiMH battery?

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Apr 25, 2012 00:51:43   #
jimmiracer Loc: Rancho Dominguez, CA
 
I have found the BEST (AA) Ni-Mh to be "eneloop" made by Sanyo as they hold there charge (after sitting sometime). I would try Amazon as they usually carry these. I have tested eneloop with volt meter and the charge is still there after sitting on shelf.

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Apr 25, 2012 00:55:07   #
jimmiracer Loc: Rancho Dominguez, CA
 
I have an older Quantum battery "pack" and it contains lead-acid gel cells that can be replaced (need soldering iron).

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Apr 25, 2012 20:19:40   #
achammar Loc: Idaho
 
Thanks everyone! I think I'm going to invest in some NiMh batteries, possibly eneloop since I've seen that twice here so far...

Thanks!
achammar

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Apr 25, 2012 20:47:58   #
Wabbit Loc: Arizona Desert
 
achammar wrote:
Thanks everyone! I think I'm going to invest in some NiMh batteries, possibly eneloop since I've seen that twice here so far...

Thanks!
achammar


Hey Doc ..... you need rechargeable batteries ....

The eneloop uses a new technology that doesn't drain much while stored.The new Version Sanyo Eneloop Low Discharge AA Batteries are 2000 mAh.

However, there are batteries that hold more like the Delkin Rechargeable Batteries at 2900 mAh.

So if you want more power for a planed shoot 2900 is better than 2000, that's 1/3 more.

Nickle-Zinc is a new option too, has a higher voltage output which I understand is good for a flash gun but they use a special dedicated charger for these Nickle-Zinc batteries, which is unusable with other types of re-chargeable batteries.

http://gizmodo.com/5111137/nickel+zinc-rechargeable-batteries-to-seriously-challenge-one-and-dones

You can find quite a few options here.

http://www.thomasdistributing.com/AA-Rechargeable-Batteries_c_678.html

And if you want information about batteries or charging look here

http://batteryuniversity.com/

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Apr 25, 2012 21:27:30   #
achammar Loc: Idaho
 
Wabbit wrote:
achammar wrote:
Thanks everyone! I think I'm going to invest in some NiMh batteries, possibly eneloop since I've seen that twice here so far...

Thanks!
achammar


Hey Doc ..... you need rechargeable batteries ....

The eneloop uses a new technology that doesn't drain much while stored.The new Version Sanyo Eneloop Low Discharge AA Batteries are 2000 mAh.

However, there are batteries that hold more like the Delkin Rechargeable Batteries at 2900 mAh.

So if you want more power for a planed shoot 2900 is better than 2000, that's 1/3 more.

Nickle-Zinc is a new option too, has a higher voltage output which I understand is good for a flash gun but they use a special dedicated charger for these Nickle-Zinc batteries, which is unusable with other types of re-chargeable batteries.

http://gizmodo.com/5111137/nickel+zinc-rechargeable-batteries-to-seriously-challenge-one-and-dones

You can find quite a few options here.

http://www.thomasdistributing.com/AA-Rechargeable-Batteries_c_678.html

And if you want information about batteries or charging look here

http://batteryuniversity.com/
quote=achammar Thanks everyone! I think I'm goin... (show quote)


Thanks for all that Wabbit! There are a lot of choices on that one link...you just made my decision much harder..lol... I do realize that 2900 mah will last longer than 2000, but I need to do my homework and make sure it will also recycle my flash just as fast. It's not so much the voltage or the mah, but the speed at which the battery can output it's current will be a deciding factor in that I assume. I will have to study a little bit. Thanks for those links!

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Apr 25, 2012 21:37:39   #
Wabbit Loc: Arizona Desert
 
achammar wrote:
Wabbit wrote:
achammar wrote:
Thanks everyone! I think I'm going to invest in some NiMh batteries, possibly eneloop since I've seen that twice here so far...

Thanks!
achammar


Hey Doc ..... you need rechargeable batteries ....

The eneloop uses a new technology that doesn't drain much while stored.The new Version Sanyo Eneloop Low Discharge AA Batteries are 2000 mAh.

However, there are batteries that hold more like the Delkin Rechargeable Batteries at 2900 mAh.

So if you want more power for a planed shoot 2900 is better than 2000, that's 1/3 more.

Nickle-Zinc is a new option too, has a higher voltage output which I understand is good for a flash gun but they use a special dedicated charger for these Nickle-Zinc batteries, which is unusable with other types of re-chargeable batteries.

http://gizmodo.com/5111137/nickel+zinc-rechargeable-batteries-to-seriously-challenge-one-and-dones

You can find quite a few options here.

http://www.thomasdistributing.com/AA-Rechargeable-Batteries_c_678.html

And if you want information about batteries or charging look here

http://batteryuniversity.com/
quote=achammar Thanks everyone! I think I'm goin... (show quote)


Thanks for all that Wabbit! There are a lot of choices on that one link...you just made my decision much harder..lol... I do realize that 2900 mah will last longer than 2000, but I need to do my homework and make sure it will also recycle my flash just as fast. It's not so much the voltage or the mah, but the speed at which the battery can output it's current will be a deciding factor in that I assume. I will have to study a little bit. Thanks for those links!
quote=Wabbit quote=achammar Thanks everyone! I ... (show quote)


If I remember correctly a few members here have the new Nickle-Zinc, use them in their flash guns, and they're happy with them.

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Apr 26, 2012 02:51:52   #
rayford2 Loc: New Bethlehem, PA
 
rayford2 wrote:
Check out the newer technology Lithium-Ion batteries (rechargeable with the right charger).


Sorry, they're not available in AA size.
My mistake.

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