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Jan 27, 2016 15:37:27   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
cdavis7820 wrote:
I am a true amateur who just likes to take pictures. I try to get different perspectives of the ordinary landscapes, people, portraitsÂ…. a little bit of everything whatever catches my eye. I consider myself a jack of all trades master of none type of guy.

I just took a major leap from canon 50D to a 5DR S. I have 4 lenses to play with. Canon E lenses 100-400mm L 4.5-5.6, 70-30mm 4.0-5.6, 28-135 3.5-5.6 and one Tamron 60mm macro 2.0 .

What am I missing for lenses to get the most out of the 5DR s?
I am a true amateur who just likes to take picture... (show quote)


Well, first of all, the model name of the camera is 5DS-R (not 5DR S).

Tamron 60/2.0 is a "Di II" crop only lens, so you'll need to replace it unless you want to use the camera in APS-C crop mode (where it will be reduced from 50MP down to 19MP, though that's still pretty respectable).

You might want to consider Canon 100/2.8 USM or 100/2.8L IS USM... both excellent macro lenses. Tamron SP 90mm or SP 90mm VC USD are both very good, too. Actually, so are Tokina AT-X Pro 100/2.8 and Sigma 105/2.8 OS HSM. All those are full frame capable. In the 90mm to 105mm range of focal lengths, the two Canon 100s are the only macro that can be fitted with a tripod mounting ring (optionally)... which I think is a very important accessory for macro shooting.

I agree too, that you might want a wide angle. A pretty darned nice, simple one is the Canon EF 20/2.8 USM. The EF 16-35/4L IS USM also looks very interesting, if you prefer a zoom. Even though it's significantly less expensive, the 16-35/4L is sharper edge to edge than the f2.8 II... and the f4 has IS while the f2.8 lens doesn't... and it's smaller and lighter than the f2.8... Plus f4 is usually plenty on an ultrawide lens... f2.8 is rarely needed. The 11-24/4L mentioned is pretty amazing and the most extreme zoom available (short of a fisheye). One of the most expensive, too.

But if your lens list is all you used with your 50D, you didn't have a wide angle anyway. So maybe it's just not something you would want or use.

Nothing wrong with the 28-135mm, but with the potential resolution of the 5DS-R you might want to consider the EF 24-70/2.8L II. One thing, I find a 24-70 comes up a little short for some things on a full frame camera. For example, for portraits I prefer it on a crop sensor camera like your old 50D. On full frame, if I want a zoom for portraits I'd usually switch to 70-200/2.8 (the Mark II is another superb lens).

If that's the original 100-400mm you have, I'd recommend selling it and the 70-300mm and replacing them with the 100-400 Mark II. It's a solid upgrade.

"L lenses only" is sort of silly. Though most L are pretty darned good, there actually are a number of Canon non-L that are equally good and in a few cases even better performing and built just as well. The 100/2.8 non-L macro is identical build to the 180/3.5L macro, and the 100mm is faster focusing. The 100 macro non-L and 100L macro have almost identical image quality... the 100L has IS, which the non-L doesn't (Note: IS really isn't all that effective at high magnifications).

The TS-E 24/3.5L (original version), TS-E 45/2.8 non-L and TS-E 90/2.8 non-L are identical build... and the 24mm L has the weakest image quality of the three (the newer TS-E 24/3.5L Mark II is a nice improvement). So, while L-series lenses can be very good, indeed... there also are some excellent lenses that don't have red stripes painted on them! Don't be an "L-coholic"... we have a 12 step program for that!

For the absolute, uncompromisingly best image quality possible, you might want to consider a handful of the Zeiss ZE primes: 18mm, 21mm, 25mm, 28mm, 35mm, 50mm, 85mm, 100mm Macro, 135mm. There might be a 15mm in the works, too. These are manual focus only, and there are no zooms. But they're quite possibly the highest quality, best corrected lenses available. Zeiss lenses have a unique "look" or "flavor" to their images.

Personally I'd say a $3500+, 50MP DSLR is somewhat massive overkill for a self-described "true amateur". Planning to make billboard size prints? ;)

But seriously, I hope you enjoy the new camera and we've helped you spend some more of your money with our ideas and suggestions. Also hope you have a pretty darned powerful computer with lots and lots of hard drive storage space to handle those huge image files!

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Jan 27, 2016 19:32:25   #
pithydoug Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY
 
Don[t know about lens[quote=cdavis7820]I am a true amateur who just likes to take pictures. I try to get different perspectives of the ordinary landscapes, people, portraitsÂ…. a little bit of everything whatever catches my eye. I consider myself a jack of all trades master of none type of guy.

I just took a major leap from canon 50D to a 5DR S. I have 4 lenses to play with. Canon E lenses 100-400mm L 4.5-5.6, 70-30mm 4.0-5.6, 28-135 3.5-5.6 and one Tamron 60mm macro 2.0 .

What am I missing for lenses to get the most out of the 5DR s?[/quote]

Don't know about lenses but if shooting raw, you gunna need some extra disk space like terabytes with and 'S" ;)

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Jan 27, 2016 20:21:55   #
davidrb Loc: Half way there on the 45th Parallel
 
amfoto1 wrote:
Well, first of all, the model name of the camera is 5DS-R (not 5DR S).

Tamron 60/2.0 is a "Di II" crop only lens, so you'll need to replace it unless you want to use the camera in APS-C crop mode (where it will be reduced from 50MP down to 19MP, though that's still pretty respectable).

You might want to consider Canon 100/2.8 USM or 100/2.8L IS USM... both excellent macro lenses. Tamron SP 90mm or SP 90mm VC USD are both very good, too. Actually, so are Tokina AT-X Pro 100/2.8 and Sigma 105/2.8 OS HSM. All those are full frame capable. In the 90mm to 105mm range of focal lengths, the two Canon 100s are the only macro that can be fitted with a tripod mounting ring (optionally)... which I think is a very important accessory for macro shooting.

I agree too, that you might want a wide angle. A pretty darned nice, simple one is the Canon EF 20/2.8 USM. The EF 16-35/4L IS USM also looks very interesting, if you prefer a zoom. Even though it's significantly less expensive, the 16-35/4L is sharper edge to edge than the f2.8 II... and the f4 has IS while the f2.8 lens doesn't... and it's smaller and lighter than the f2.8... Plus f4 is usually plenty on an ultrawide lens... f2.8 is rarely needed. The 11-24/4L mentioned is pretty amazing and the most extreme zoom available (short of a fisheye). One of the most expensive, too.

But if your lens list is all you used with your 50D, you didn't have a wide angle anyway. So maybe it's just not something you would want or use.

Nothing wrong with the 28-135mm, but with the potential resolution of the 5DS-R you might want to consider the EF 24-70/2.8L II. One thing, I find a 24-70 comes up a little short for some things on a full frame camera. For example, for portraits I prefer it on a crop sensor camera like your old 50D. On full frame, if I want a zoom for portraits I'd usually switch to 70-200/2.8 (the Mark II is another superb lens).

If that's the original 100-400mm you have, I'd recommend selling it and the 70-300mm and replacing them with the 100-400 Mark II. It's a solid upgrade.

"L lenses only" is sort of silly. Though most L are pretty darned good, there actually are a number of Canon non-L that are equally good and in a few cases even better performing and built just as well. The 100/2.8 non-L macro is identical build to the 180/3.5L macro, and the 100mm is faster focusing. The 100 macro non-L and 100L macro have almost identical image quality... the 100L has IS, which the non-L doesn't (Note: IS really isn't all that effective at high magnifications).

The TS-E 24/3.5L (original version), TS-E 45/2.8 non-L and TS-E 90/2.8 non-L are identical build... and the 24mm L has the weakest image quality of the three (the newer TS-E 24/3.5L Mark II is a nice improvement). So, while L-series lenses can be very good, indeed... there also are some excellent lenses that don't have red stripes painted on them! Don't be an "L-coholic"... we have a 12 step program for that!

For the absolute, uncompromisingly best image quality possible, you might want to consider a handful of the Zeiss ZE primes: 18mm, 21mm, 25mm, 28mm, 35mm, 50mm, 85mm, 100mm Macro, 135mm. There might be a 15mm in the works, too. These are manual focus only, and there are no zooms. But they're quite possibly the highest quality, best corrected lenses available. Zeiss lenses have a unique "look" or "flavor" to their images.

Personally I'd say a $3500+, 50MP DSLR is somewhat massive overkill for a self-described "true amateur". Planning to make billboard size prints? ;)

But seriously, I hope you enjoy the new camera and we've helped you spend some more of your money with our ideas and suggestions. Also hope you have a pretty darned powerful computer with lots and lots of hard drive storage space to handle those huge image files!
Well, first of all, the model name of the camera i... (show quote)


Careful Alan, you might trip over your envy! Ah, the things that dreams are made of.....:=)

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Jan 27, 2016 21:26:46   #
Marionsho Loc: Kansas
 
cdavis7820 wrote:
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You're welcome.

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Jan 28, 2016 17:28:37   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
You have a super Canon camera. $3800.00 current price with 50 megapixels resolutions. Highest megapixels I think for a DSLR. You have a good collection of lenses already. The 60mm macro is a great prime lens. I would go for a prime ultra wide lens 28mm or less. With that I would be completely complete.

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Jan 28, 2016 18:05:38   #
Gifted One Loc: S. E. Idaho
 
mas, some terrible information. The 60mm macro is an EFs mount. meaning that is designed for APS-C sensor. The OP has a FF.

I have shot the 60 Mac and in my opinion it is one of the sharpest I have shot.

J. R.



mas24 wrote:
You have a super Canon camera. $3800.00 current price with 50 megapixels resolutions. Highest megapixels I think for a DSLR. You have a good collection of lenses already. The 60mm macro is a great prime lens. I would go for a prime ultra wide lens 28mm or less. With that I would be completely complete.

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Jan 29, 2016 13:52:53   #
thephotoman Loc: Rochester, NY
 
cdavis7820 wrote:
I am a true amateur who just likes to take pictures. I try to get different perspectives of the ordinary landscapes, people, portraitsÂ…. a little bit of everything whatever catches my eye. I consider myself a jack of all trades master of none type of guy.

I just took a major leap from canon 50D to a 5DR S. I have 4 lenses to play with. Canon E lenses 100-400mm L 4.5-5.6, 70-30mm 4.0-5.6, 28-135 3.5-5.6 and one Tamron 60mm macro 2.0 .

What am I missing for lenses to get the most out of the 5DR s?
I am a true amateur who just likes to take picture... (show quote)

If you can get your hands on CT photography for winter 2016, they have a great article on lenses for your camera. I think you will find it very in depth and informative. Unfortunately the issue is the last for the magazine.

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Jan 31, 2016 15:58:32   #
n64uw
 
Your photo indicates that your budget is unlimited. In that context purchase the 50mm 1.2L, the 100mm 2.8L Macro, the 16mm-35mm 2.8L, the 24mm-70mm 2.8L, the 70mm-200mm 2.8L, and for fun 70mm-300mm L, and the TE-24mm 2.8L...a good start to feeling good about owning quality and useful lenses for having fun.

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