Hey Chuck,
Yep, this subject has been discussed time and time again, but you know, I never seem to get tired of it since there always seems to be some new, possibly minute, comment someone makes that adds to the debate one way or another. :-)
I just had a discussion with two photographers, in person, about the very same topic and they both agreed that PP'ing is absolutely OK and acceptable. Ansel Adam's has a fairly famous photograph that looks fantastic (the one that is usually shone or printed). However, if you see his original out of the camera shot, it is awful!!! I wish I could remember what it is called or provide more information, but it totally escapes me. Film darkrooms were used for PP'd images, enhancing images, combining images etc., so why in the world is everyone so perturbed about using Digital Darkrooms such as Photoshop, LR, Macphun Programs, On1 programs, FX Pro Studio, Affinity, Gimp, Portrait Pro, etc., etc., etc.?
That is basically nonsense as long as photojournalists, and whomever else, do not make adjustments for profit or are forbidden by their industry. Personal use as well as commercial use is fine, just as long as it isn't overdone or they are not trying to 'put one over" on people and be deceptive with malicious intent, just as you had said. My goodness, has anyone really paid any attention to the TV programs and political campaign images or advertisements on TV? I just saw an interview on TV with Hilary Clinton, and it was so blatant the air brushing or whatever TV stations can do with images of people on screen. There was an actual line on the screen where you could see the difference in her facial skin and dress/suit where it was applied and where they had 'cut it off!' Absolutely amazing. There wasn't a blemish or a wrinkle or whatever on her skin or her clothing, not even a piece of lint or minor wrinkle or crease or any sign of aging on her face, and it was not just a cover up by makeup! And we all know that there are never any cover-ups by political candidates or the government or the armed services, right!?!?!
Oh, yes, let's not forget about what all magazines (probably newspapers that still exist, as well) do to their printed images of models, glamour stars, celebrities, and important people. People in real life most often do not look like how they are presented in print and photographs. Heck, even head shots of CEO's and corporate executives are most assuredly doctored up in PP'ing.
I like what you had done with the images you chose to upload. You did a very nice job and definitely improved upon the photos. Well done, Chuck, keep up the good work! :-)
Oh, and let's not forget about photographers like Cliff who does super senior portraits for parents. He is a master of composites using parts from many images and combining them into one that is loved by the senior's parents. And he makes no bones about what he does . . . he tells parents what he plans on doing and what he has done . . . and does it in PP'ing with digital enhancement programs. Russ is another exceptionally fine digital artist with his Unique method(s) of changing RAW images into superb B&W images of homeless men on the streets of various cities. Those are just two UHH member photographers who immediately come to mind.
So, Chuck, I think it is most appropriate and often times necessary to use Digital PP'ing when developing digital images. I think it is here to stay and even improve as time goes on. Once I am dead, I'd love to see future improvements and innovations in the PP'ing software programs and how they change. Cheers, Everyone.
Best Regards,
Tom
P.S. I just finished and saw what kymarto posted. He says it very well, and his knowledge and experience just adds more for the subject of promoting PP'ing images out of camera. He is absolutely correct . . . shoot images in jpeg and the camera does the PP'ing for you automatically, so no photo is actually really displayed as the human eye sees it. I shoot in RAW all the time, and people would be absolutely outraged if they just saw the RAW image, and, photos would be totally unacceptable by 99.9% of the viewers.
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