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Jan 26, 2016 16:35:51   #
jim hill Loc: Springfield, IL
 
minniev wrote:
I looked at this one several times before commenting. I like the image itself a lot, and the cat and bird are part of what I like most about it (I am a big fan of the small characters that creep into your compositions at just the right places).

I struggle with the Topaz effect this time, though, I have always had a problem with that particular filter that makes all the squiggles, so it is probably just me. I like some of it such as the sky parts, but when the squiggles get too involved I kinda get crosseyed looking at it.

Would it be a lot of trouble to show the version before the squiggles? If it is, don't do it, I'm just curious as always.
I looked at this one several times before commenti... (show quote)


Here 'tis.

Couple, Washington Park - Sans Topaz
Couple, Washington Park - Sans Topaz...
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Jan 26, 2016 16:39:49   #
mallen1330 Loc: Chicago western suburbs
 
Uuglypher wrote:
Jim,
Looking closely at the "portcullis"(which is not, in fact, a portcullis) ...

It's a "pergola".

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Jan 26, 2016 16:53:32   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
jim hill wrote:
Here 'tis.


I prefer this one. I think it is absolutely grand, crow, pagoda (or whatever it is), cat and all. The moon is pretty wonderful too, and it can be mistaken for a cloud in the other version.

Have you tried blending the topaz one with the non topaz one on layers? I have never tried it with the squiggly filter (not sure it's exact name) but I often do that with Topaz because some of its filters are a little too strong for what I'm trying to do. I'm wrangling with one as we speak, not sure which of us will win, me or Topaz.

Thanks for sharing the other version, hope you didn't have to do too much digging...

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Jan 26, 2016 17:08:02   #
jim hill Loc: Springfield, IL
 
minniev wrote:
I prefer this one. I think it is absolutely grand, crow, pagoda (or whatever it is), cat and all. The moon is pretty wonderful too, and it can be mistaken for a cloud in the other version.

Have you tried blending the topaz one with the non topaz one on layers? I have never tried it with the squiggly filter (not sure it's exact name) but I often do that with Topaz because some of its filters are a little too strong for what I'm trying to do. I'm wrangling with one as we speak, not sure which of us will win, me or Topaz.

Thanks for sharing the other version, hope you didn't have to do too much digging...
I prefer this one. I think it is absolutely grand,... (show quote)


The problem is that there are different versions under different titles. Blame it on age.

There have been some postings where Topaz was used minimally. That would be ideal. Have to learn how to do that on my own. Has to do with sliders in combination, methinks.

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Jan 26, 2016 17:24:12   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
jim hill wrote:
The problem is that there are different versions under different titles. Blame it on age.

There have been some postings where Topaz was used minimally. That would be ideal. Have to learn how to do that on my own. Has to do with sliders in combination, methinks.


For me, the topaz sliders are very tricky and sometimes don't do exactly what I think they will. Likewise its masking tool, which seems to have a mind all its own.

Thus, I often end up, if adjustment within Topaz won't work right, moving on to layering and brushing in the effect at a reduced opacity so the original can show as much as I want and where I want. (such as that cute moon).

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Jan 26, 2016 17:39:02   #
jim hill Loc: Springfield, IL
 
minniev wrote:
For me, the topaz sliders are very tricky and sometimes don't do exactly what I think they will. Likewise its masking tool, which seems to have a mind all its own.

Thus, I often end up, if adjustment within Topaz won't work right, moving on to layering and brushing in the effect at a reduced opacity so the original can show as much as I want and where I want. (such as that cute moon).


I have heard y'all talking about layering for lo these many moons but I have yet to do it. I don't know how to do it with my Serif and don't recall an occasion where it might have been necessary. I am pretty sure Serif has layers but I haven't any idea how to use them.

I think I'll load the manual and try to see what I'm missing. When I decided to use a composite it's done with my clonig tool. Have to be careful to get the rights size beofre cloning but it has served me fairly well. Is that a case where layering could be helpful? Amongst other procedures?

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Jan 26, 2016 18:15:54   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
jim hill wrote:
I have heard y'all talking about layering for lo these many moons but I have yet to do it. I don't know how to do it with my Serif and don't recall an occasion where it might have been necessary. I am pretty sure Serif has layers but I haven't any idea how to use them.

I think I'll load the manual and try to see what I'm missing. When I decided to use a composite it's done with my clonig tool. Have to be careful to get the rights size beofre cloning but it has served me fairly well. Is that a case where layering could be helpful? Amongst other procedures?
I have heard y'all talking about layering for lo t... (show quote)


Oh my yes my friend. A whole new world will open to you. Just to get you started https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdWU76k3Oic. Once you get it figured out you may never leave the computer again, with all those wonderful images you have to harvest from. Infinite...

Don't know Serif, but in PS you can add your element on a layer and then resize in a second without bothering other layers such as your background. You have to wrap your mind around masking to make things visible and invisible, and a few other tricks but once it clicks, you're off to the races.

Think of layers of cellophane or glass with images on them, stacked up. That's layers. Where the glass is clear you can see through to the next layer, all the way to where the glass is painted over with some image part. But you can jump to that part and mask out (erase) something else, or paint in something else on whichever layer you want it.

It will make sense to you, I predict, because of your background.

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Jan 26, 2016 18:34:37   #
jim hill Loc: Springfield, IL
 
minniev wrote:
Oh my yes my friend. A whole new world will open to you. Just to get you started https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdWU76k3Oic. Once you get it figured out you may never leave the computer again, with all those wonderful images you have to harvest from. Infinite...

Don't know Serif, but in PS you can add your element on a layer and then resize in a second without bothering other layers such as your background. You have to wrap your mind around masking to make things visible and invisible, and a few other tricks but once it clicks, you're off to the races.

Think of layers of cellophane or glass with images on them, stacked up. That's layers. Where the glass is clear you can see through to the next layer, all the way to where the glass is painted over with some image part. But you can jump to that part and mask out (erase) something else, or paint in something else on whichever layer you want it.

It will make sense to you, I predict, because of your background.
Oh my yes my friend. A whole new world will open t... (show quote)


Thanks Judy,

I will check into it tomorrow before rehab. Who knows - maybe a whole new world will open up to me.

I am going to print out your response, if it's alright with you. If not, just say so.

And thanks for your willingness to share. So very helpful.

Jim

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Jan 26, 2016 18:39:45   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
jim hill wrote:
Thanks Judy,

I will check into it tomorrow before rehab. Who knows - maybe a whole new world will open up to me.

I am going to print out your response, if it's alright with you. If not, just say so.

And thanks for your willingness to share. So very helpful.

Jim


You do whatever you want with it. You are in for a treat, it will make you really crazy for a couple of days while you figure out what to do.

If you want to hide a layer and see the one below it, you create a black layer mask on that layer and paint in white to reveal the things you want to keep from the top layer. If you want to show most of a layer, create a white layer mask and paint in black to hide parts of it and reveal the things you want to show through from the layer below.

That's the formula.Black hides, white reveals. The opacities of the layers also controls how transparent that whole layer is. Yell if you start pulling your hair out.

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Jan 26, 2016 18:51:22   #
jim hill Loc: Springfield, IL
 
minniev wrote:
You do whatever you want with it. You are in for a treat, it will make you really crazy for a couple of days while you figure out what to do.

If you want to hide a layer and see the one below it, you create a black layer mask on that layer and paint in white to reveal the things you want to keep from the top layer. If you want to show most of a layer, create a white layer mask and paint in black to hide parts of it and reveal the things you want to show through from the layer below.

That's the formula.Black hides, white reveals. The opacities of the layers also controls how transparent that whole layer is. Yell if you start pulling your hair out.
You do whatever you want with it. You are in for a... (show quote)


An offer I can't turn down. Thanks, my dear. You are a gem.

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Jan 26, 2016 18:54:37   #
jim hill Loc: Springfield, IL
 
mallen1330 wrote:
It's a "pergola".


Even if the sections are not connected. Which they aren't. I know it looks like a pergola but is that true with this configuration?

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Jan 26, 2016 19:06:02   #
mallen1330 Loc: Chicago western suburbs
 
jim hill wrote:
Even if the sections are not connected. Which they aren't. I know it looks like a pergola but is that true with this configuration?

I had to look more closely to see that. Not a pergola, definitely not a portcullis. Perhaps we can call it a Japanese Torii Gate. Perhaps we can call it a night?

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Jan 26, 2016 19:08:12   #
jim hill Loc: Springfield, IL
 
mallen1330 wrote:
I had to look more closely to see that. Not a pergola, definitely not a portcullis. Perhaps we can call it a Japanese Torii Gate. Perhaps we can call it a night?


Not 'til I have my sarsaparilla.

I Googled Portcullus. Have no idea where the docent (my term) of the park district came up with that name.

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