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Jan 14, 2016 01:25:22   #
dansmith Loc: Southwest Alberta Canada
 
..a cold impersonal hospital hallway.


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Jan 14, 2016 01:38:19   #
St3v3M Loc: 35,000 feet
 
I like the leading lines drawing you down the hallway and am intrigued by the single chair at the end. It has a Stephen King feeling from The Shining.

The one thing that distracts if for me though is the diagonal line on the floor front and center as it ruins the flow of the otherwise parallel lines.

I'm curious, have you considered a square crop? And was this shot on film? S-

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Jan 14, 2016 02:02:02   #
dansmith Loc: Southwest Alberta Canada
 
St3v3M wrote:
I like the leading lines drawing you down the hallway and am intrigued by the single chair at the end. It has a Stephen King feeling from The Shining.

The one thing that distracts if for me though is the diagonal line on the floor front and center as it ruins the flow of the otherwise parallel lines.

I'm curious, have you considered a square crop? And was this shot on film? S-


I left the floor and wall expansion joint covers in not only as an architectural element one would find in a large building hallway but to counter the "leading lines". That, plus my intentional close focus added to the unbalanced feeling that this impersonal area gave me.

..yes BW film in a Minolta HiMatic G2

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Jan 14, 2016 02:02:57   #
St3v3M Loc: 35,000 feet
 
dansmith wrote:
I left the floor and wall expansion joint covers in not only as an architectural element one would find in a large building hallway but to counter the "leading lines". That, plus my intentional close focus added to the unbalanced feeling that this impersonal area gave me.

..yes BW film in a Minolta HiMatic G2

Interesting and I love the film look! Thank you for sharing! S-

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Jan 14, 2016 02:07:24   #
dansmith Loc: Southwest Alberta Canada
 
St3v3M wrote:
Interesting and I love the film look! Thank you for sharing! S-


Thanks Steve. It has its charm.
No film axe to grind here, just a bunch of old cameras to play with that happen to use the stuff and as yet no decent digital gear.

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Jan 14, 2016 02:16:53   #
Billyspad Loc: The Philippines
 
I would go for a square crop Dan as per Steve's suggestion.
I know absolutely nothing about film so forgive a dumb question. Many many software packages offer the option of mimicking old roll films from a digital image. In your opinion how close to the real thing do these come. Hope Jim Hill pops by to get his views on the same question as he like you is skilled in the art of developing BW images from roll film.

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Jan 14, 2016 02:50:50   #
dansmith Loc: Southwest Alberta Canada
 
Billyspad wrote:
I would go for a square crop Dan as per Steve's suggestion.
I know absolutely nothing about film so forgive a dumb question. Many many software packages offer the option of mimicking old roll films from a digital image. In your opinion how close to the real thing do these come. Hope Jim Hill pops by to get his views on the same question as he like you is skilled in the art of developing BW images from roll film.


Thanks for the look Billy. This ones all about the hallway so shortening it with a crop will be hard for me to do. If anything, I have another edit that includes another 1 1/2 feet down front.

I don't know enough about pp software but suspect that anything that supposedly mimicked film prints would breakdown the image to make it look like an old faded snap. Properly exposed and processed film photos from decent gear are artifact free and very hard for the viewer to distinguish from digitally produced images. The grainy look of this shot comes from scanning a negative that is underexposed.

..and yes, like to hear Jim's views on this subject.

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Jan 14, 2016 03:14:20   #
GWR100 Loc: England
 
Hi dan smith, I too would either crop it or if not clone out the front floor bar. I do like the grainy finish, possible created by using a very high ISO? but whatever it is it works well,

Geoff

dansmith wrote:
..a cold impersonal hospital hallway.

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Jan 14, 2016 08:44:34   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
"White coat syndrome" - my blood pressure rose just looking at this, Dan :)

I love the diagonal in foreground, wouldn't want to crop, and would enjoy seeing your other, even longer hallway. For me, the length adds to the institutional, cold feel, as does the shiny floor reflecting the lone chair and window.

Terrific impact and emotion in this one. Definitely a subject that will illicit varying responses, depending on one's personal experience.

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Jan 14, 2016 10:09:13   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 
Cold and impersonal--that it is. I like the expansion joint lines because they give the shot a degree of personality, I think, if that makes any sense at all.

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Jan 14, 2016 10:23:24   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
dansmith wrote:
..a cold impersonal hospital hallway.


Great stark image that we all get a bit creeped out looking at. We KNOW what this means! Good decisions about the lines, which both move us around the frame and stop us to look again. While I might have gone for a more contrasty look, this style looks like what we have come to recognize as your style, so I cannot quibble over it, it suits you and it is an interesting, well designed image that evokes an emotional response.

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Jan 14, 2016 11:42:45   #
dansmith Loc: Southwest Alberta Canada
 
Interesting.

A tie on the crop - don't crop. Hope more folks weigh in on this. You're right about my style Minnie, I tend towards feelings and sometimes go out of my way to ignore convention. Hallmark won't be on the phone anytime soon.

Here's the other edit Linda, still a work in progress but the main direction this one's going shows. The gloves are off here but this is truly seen through the eyes of the guy that had the camera in his pocket, worn dirty floor and all.


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Jan 14, 2016 12:11:06   #
Frank2013 Loc: San Antonio, TX. & Milwaukee, WI.
 
You have probably got this right. Not wishing for you to be back there but if you were try a lower perspective....maybe from just below the rail. I prefer your second shot and think both are well done.

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Jan 14, 2016 12:22:56   #
dansmith Loc: Southwest Alberta Canada
 
Frank2013 wrote:
You have probably got this right. Not wishing for you to be back there but if you were try a lower perspective....maybe from just below the rail. I prefer your second shot and think both are well done.


Good point Frank, I was sitting down while contemplating this and remember crouching to shoot but a lower perspective would certainly improve things. Thanks for the comments.

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Jan 14, 2016 14:17:02   #
Jim-Pops Loc: Granbury, Texas
 
Billyspad wrote:
I would go for a square crop Dan as per Steve's suggestion.
I know absolutely nothing about film so forgive a dumb question. Many many software packages offer the option of mimicking old roll films from a digital image. In your opinion how close to the real thing do these come. Hope Jim Hill pops by to get his views on the same question as he like you is skilled in the art of developing BW images from roll film.


Billy you got me thinking here. I just called a high end Camera shop and asked this question, "If I bought roll film and asked to have it processed without it being scanned is it posable?" His answer is no, he knows of no where to get it done all chemically processed. So to compare B&W print of old to today could be challenging. I think an old print would be aged by now so we couldn't see a direct comparison to lay side by side. I think some old timers like myself just have this image in the back of our brain and might not be so accurate. As I remember any old film processed prints had definitely more grain/noise than what we see today. Contrast and sharpness could vary in the old processing days buy the chemicals and time in the bath. Now I hope Jim Hill does chime in to tell me otherwise. From your statement he is doing his own processing, is this without converting anything digitally? I don't think I am wrong but need to go back a few years and when I do my memory isn't as sharp as once was.
So to answerer your question, Can modern software packages offer the option of mimicking old roll films from a digital image to same quality as true Film and processing? My guess is almost.
Pops

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