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Jan 7, 2016 09:58:58   #
nakkh Loc: San Mateo, Ca
 
A look at how the feds have — and have not — punished individuals for defying regulations.

http://www.hcn.org/articles/the-people-v-the-b*m-bundy-hammonds-malheur

One of the reasons Ammon and Ryan Bundy and their armed friends are holed up at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, deep in the frigid sage plains of Oregon, is to protest what they see as an unjust punishment of a father-son pair of local ranchers, Dwight and Steven Hammond.

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Jan 7, 2016 10:26:28   #
green Loc: 22.1749611,-159.646704,20
 
Dwight and Steven Hammond, and the locals are telling them to go away...

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Jan 7, 2016 10:37:50   #
Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, Colorado
 
Well froggy, maybe you and Homer should check out soba's post on this issue. Very informative.

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Jan 7, 2016 10:41:10   #
green Loc: 22.1749611,-159.646704,20
 
Jakebrake wrote:
Well froggy, maybe you and Homer should check out soba's post on this issue. Very informative.
perhaps we already did... I think legally, the land belongs to the Paiutes. Their treaty was never ratified, but they are ok with the government managing the land. The ranchers have no claim and should be removed and imprisoned for 5 years.

They are breaking the law to prove their point. Of course you are on the side of the criminals, no? Muhammed Ali also broke to the law to prove his point... and paid the price.

On the other hand, the Bundy's with mega-federal loans, are acting a bit hypocritical.

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Jan 7, 2016 11:07:24   #
Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, Colorado
 
green wrote:
perhaps we already did... I think legally, the land belongs to the Paiutes. Their treaty was never ratified, but they are ok with the government managing the land. The ranchers have no claim and should be removed and imprisoned for 5 years.

They are breaking the law to prove their point. Of course you are on the side of the criminals, no? Muhammed Ali also broke to the law to prove his point... and paid the price.

On the other hand, the Bundy's with mega-federal loans, are acting a bit hypocritical.
perhaps we already did... I think legally, the lan... (show quote)


Certainly not evident from your reply Homer. Did you watch the complete video, not just the first 30 seconds (I realize it's quite long for some lib's)? In case you didn't, it has to do with an out of control Federal Government and their never ending land grab whether it's from the indians, Mormon's or someone's private land. :?

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Jan 7, 2016 15:38:33   #
lightcatcher Loc: Farmington, NM (4 corners)
 
4 Maps Explain the Oregon M*****a Standoff and the Big Issue Behind It
http://www.ijreview.com/2016/01/507219-federal-land-map-hammond-oregon-ranchers-grazing/?author=kr&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=owned&utm_campaign=politics&utm_term=ijamerica&utm_content=politics

Full Story About What’s Going on In Oregon – “M*****a” Take Over Malheur National Wildlife Refuge In Protest to Hammond Family Persecution…
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/01/03/full-story-on-whats-going-on-in-oregon-m*****a-take-over-malheur-national-wildlife-refuge-in-protest-to-hammond-family-persecution/

5 Taxpayer Handouts the Bundys Receive While Railing Against Government “Tyranny”
http://usuncut.com/news/5-government-handouts-bundys-receive/

I Studied Oregon’s M*****a Movement. Here’s 5 Things You Need to Know
http://usuncut.com/news/5-things-you-need-to-know-about-the-oregon-m*****a-takeover/

This map shows the huge amount of land the federal government owns in the American West
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/map-shows-huge-amount-land-130300363.html

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Jan 7, 2016 17:08:07   #
nakkh Loc: San Mateo, Ca
 
The bundys are gonna get theirs soon enough. The feds never forget.
green wrote:
perhaps we already did... I think legally, the land belongs to the Paiutes. Their treaty was never ratified, but they are ok with the government managing the land. The ranchers have no claim and should be removed and imprisoned for 5 years.

They are breaking the law to prove their point. Of course you are on the side of the criminals, no? Muhammed Ali also broke to the law to prove his point... and paid the price.

On the other hand, the Bundy's with mega-federal loans, are acting a bit hypocritical.
perhaps we already did... I think legally, the lan... (show quote)

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Jan 7, 2016 18:39:35   #
lightcatcher Loc: Farmington, NM (4 corners)
 
Give States Control Over Public Land Out West
http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2016/01/07/who-should-control-the-west/give-states-control-over-public-land-out-west

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Jan 7, 2016 19:56:33   #
Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, Colorado
 
nakkh wrote:
The bundys are gonna get theirs soon enough. The feds never forget.


Janet Reno certainly proves your point froggy.

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Jan 7, 2016 20:42:06   #
nakkh Loc: San Mateo, Ca
 
Uncle sam has a long memory & the Bundy's better make arrangements for a long period of incarceration.

Jakebrake wrote:
Janet Reno certainly proves your point froggy.

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Jan 7, 2016 21:53:45   #
Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, Colorado
 
nakkh wrote:
Uncle sam has a long memory & the Bundy's better make arrangements for a long period of incarceration.


We shall see froggy.

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Jan 7, 2016 23:00:52   #
lightcatcher Loc: Farmington, NM (4 corners)
 
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-360059-2.html

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Jan 9, 2016 17:09:53   #
lightcatcher Loc: Farmington, NM (4 corners)
 
Armed Oregon occupation: Is it really about white poverty in the West?

http://news.yahoo.com/armed-oregon-occupation-really-white-poverty-west-184225134.html

Burns, Ore., residents visit besieged land refuge; find common ground with Bundy movement


http://news.yahoo.com/burns-oregon-residents-find-unexpected-common-ground-with-bundy-movement-185240014.html#

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