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Jan 1, 2016 09:45:23   #
jmizera Loc: Austin Texas
 
Macronaut wrote:
Since if you already have some FF glass, that's more than half the battle of going FF. Having both APS-C and FF gives you far more versatility in general. I would not want to give up either my crop or FF cameras but, if I did have to, I would keep the FF.

I suggest not ruling completely out a FF body, even if you need to wait a bit.


I was thinking the same thing. I have the the 24 to 70 on my 5DII. Perfect walking around lens. Speaking of which, there are plenty of good used examples of this camera out there.

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Jan 1, 2016 10:16:25   #
coyotecall Loc: New Mexico
 
You can drive yourself crazy over these choices (as I have) or take a chance on the wisdom that comes from experience. I'm assuming I have some of the latter......I had a 70D and accidentally bid on and then won a 5D Mark II. (I shoot all the stuff you do...and sometimes blow up to 3'x2' for framing and selling.) After a period of time, having sold my 70D and just using the 5D, I found I missed the great stuff about the 70D and wasn't that impressed with the FF output, i.e. it really wasn't that much of an "improvement" over what I had gotten from the 70D. I sold the 5D and bought another 70D and have never looked back. You'll find a lot of back-and-forth about FF vs crop sensor all over the net, but frankly, unless you're a pro and need output for very large prints and/or do a lot of cropping of small parts of a picture you've taken which you subsequently blow up BIG, you will be hard pressed to find a difference in print quality in the end. As for shooting in low light, well, the 70D has a very nice pop up flash that takes care of that. BUT! After all I've said here I've no doubt many will jump all over this with details about FF that will, supposedly, blow what I'm saying out of the water. If you're taking good pics with what you have, a crop frame camera, there is really no need to move to a heavier and more bulky FF.....unless you've got a "thing" about it. I did, and got over it. And yes, this IS a "question that is never ending" not much different than the Nikon vs Canon routine.
mcmm wrote:
I know this question is never ending but am asking for input anyway.
Current camera T3i. Planning to purchase new camera and need advice.
I take tons of photos of kids at school, family, sports (not professional) and landscapes. In other words, pretty much everything. These are the lenses available for use: Canon 50mm f1.2, Canon 24-70 f2.8, Canon 70-200 f2.8. Cameras I am looking at (all Canon's): 6Ti, 6Ts, 70d, 7dmarkII.
A FF camera isn't in the budget at this time (spent the money on lenses). PP programs, PSCS5, Elements 13, Lightroom 4.4. I have looked at all the comparison sites that have been listed before and still can't make a decision. All considered which camera would you suggest?
Sorry to keep beating the subject to death but when it is personal we all want to hear the answers again!!!!
I know this question is never ending but am asking... (show quote)

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Jan 1, 2016 10:41:15   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
mcmm wrote:
I guess my concern is the learning curve moving from a APS-C to a FF. Any thoughts on that?


What learning curve? Photography is photography! You may have a FEW more tools on a full frame body, but nothing you can't pick up quickly.

That said, the 7D II is the top of the heap you listed.

Don't forget that all your lenses will seem shorter on full frame because they will perform as designed.

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Jan 1, 2016 11:15:31   #
RJWagons Loc: Lake Ridge Virginia
 
The concern - you might want to consider - with the full frame 6D is the cost of FF lens. I bought a 6D last year but only have 2 lens and, as a retired person, find it difficult to get some of the other ones I'd like to have. Just a thought.

mcmm wrote:
I will look at the 6D. Had not really considered it because I thought it would cost considerable more than an APS-C camera.

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Jan 1, 2016 11:19:42   #
jayd Loc: Central Florida, East coast
 
Either 7DII OR 6D
NO LEARNING CURVE FOR CROP TO FF

SLIGHT LEARNING CURVE FOR FOCUS SYSTEM ON 7D

I SHOOT 6 d. And Rebel xt and Xti also

7D also benefits from 10 fps
6D 4 fps.

The lense length you loose on a ff you gain back if you crop in on the ff.

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Jan 1, 2016 11:33:45   #
Mightymouse Loc: Long Island NY
 
7dmII with 70-200 2.8 L II. What lenses do you currently have?

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Jan 1, 2016 11:37:29   #
Mightymouse Loc: Long Island NY
 
Oh sorry those are the lenses you have! Nice. Still the 7dmII

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Jan 1, 2016 12:09:38   #
jimmya Loc: Phoenix
 
mcmm wrote:
I know this question is never ending but am asking for input anyway.
Current camera T3i. Planning to purchase new camera and need advice.
I take tons of photos of kids at school, family, sports (not professional) and landscapes. In other words, pretty much everything. These are the lenses available for use: Canon 50mm f1.2, Canon 24-70 f2.8, Canon 70-200 f2.8. Cameras I am looking at (all Canon's): 6Ti, 6Ts, 70d, 7dmarkII.
A FF camera isn't in the budget at this time (spent the money on lenses). PP programs, PSCS5, Elements 13, Lightroom 4.4. I have looked at all the comparison sites that have been listed before and still can't make a decision. All considered which camera would you suggest?
Sorry to keep beating the subject to death but when it is personal we all want to hear the answers again!!!!
I know this question is never ending but am asking... (show quote)


I would ask why you need a new camera. I also shoot a t3i and it's excellent for both stills and video.

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Jan 1, 2016 13:22:01   #
Cappy Loc: Wildwood, NJ
 
I have and use the 70D 90% of the time. I like the articulating screen for low & over the head shots.

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Jan 1, 2016 13:42:05   #
Toment Loc: FL, IL
 
mcmm wrote:
I know this question is never ending but am asking for input anyway.
Current camera T3i. Planning to purchase new camera and need advice.
I take tons of photos of kids at school, family, sports (not professional) and landscapes. In other words, pretty much everything. These are the lenses available for use: Canon 50mm f1.2, Canon 24-70 f2.8, Canon 70-200 f2.8. Cameras I am looking at (all Canon's): 6Ti, 6Ts, 70d, 7dmarkII.
A FF camera isn't in the budget at this time (spent the money on lenses). PP programs, PSCS5, Elements 13, Lightroom 4.4. I have looked at all the comparison sites that have been listed before and still can't make a decision. All considered which camera would you suggest?
Sorry to keep beating the subject to death but when it is personal we all want to hear the answers again!!!!
I know this question is never ending but am asking... (show quote)


OK, here's my two cents:
Sounds like you are happy with crop frame, so why bother w more expensive FF? Unless you are curious now w all this talk about them...
T6 is MUCH more capable than what you have but pretty much the same on the outside.
70D is a step up from Rebel line, not sure you would care much about those features, BUT 7Dm2 is a BIG step up and wonderful for focusing on quick kids!
So, what to do?
Try the two of them out and pick what you like. You'll save a little money buying the T6.
Good luck!

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Jan 1, 2016 14:10:02   #
charles tabb Loc: Richmond VA.
 
I know this will bring on all kinds of ridicule but here's my sugguestion.

I love my Sony a99 which has been replaced with a new model now (a7rII). Bare in mind that Sony makes most of the sensors for other major brands. I then found an arthor by the name of Friedman who has a book out on most all of the Sony models. I found it to remove most of the hard learning curve. I still am loving the pictures that I get.

Charles

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Jan 1, 2016 14:51:52   #
Brian in Whitby Loc: Whitby, Ontario, Canada
 
Before you invest in a new camera body, ask yourself why are you dissatisfied with your present camera? Are there features it is lacking or something it does not do as well asbyoubwould like?

I moved from a T2i tk a 60D because the T2i did not have a moveable view screen and the burst rate was slower than I would like.

If there is nothing you are unhappy about with your present camera consider treating yourself to a new lens. Alternatively you might want to upgrsde the user perhsps takeca new photography course or go on a photogrsphy excursion.

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Jan 1, 2016 15:32:45   #
John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN
 
You might try renting, if possible, each choice so you can get some 'hands-on' experience. While there will be those who praise each or condemn each, there is no one's experience that can match yours.

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Jan 1, 2016 17:40:45   #
Toment Loc: FL, IL
 
charles tabb wrote:
I know this will bring on all kinds of ridicule but here's my sugguestion.

I love my Sony a99 which has been replaced with a new model now (a7rII). Bare in mind that Sony makes most of the sensors for other major brands. I then found an arthor by the name of Friedman who has a book out on most all of the Sony models. I found it to remove most of the hard learning curve. I still am loving the pictures that I get.

Charles


Lucky you
Have fun :thumbup:

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Jan 1, 2016 17:53:18   #
JPL
 
mcmm wrote:
I know this question is never ending but am asking for input anyway.
Current camera T3i. Planning to purchase new camera and need advice.
I take tons of photos of kids at school, family, sports (not professional) and landscapes. In other words, pretty much everything. These are the lenses available for use: Canon 50mm f1.2, Canon 24-70 f2.8, Canon 70-200 f2.8. Cameras I am looking at (all Canon's): 6Ti, 6Ts, 70d, 7dmarkII.
A FF camera isn't in the budget at this time (spent the money on lenses). PP programs, PSCS5, Elements 13, Lightroom 4.4. I have looked at all the comparison sites that have been listed before and still can't make a decision. All considered which camera would you suggest?
Sorry to keep beating the subject to death but when it is personal we all want to hear the answers again!!!!
I know this question is never ending but am asking... (show quote)


Not being a Canon guy but following lot of discussion about all kind of camera gear I would say your choice should be the 7dm2. It is the top of the line of Canon crop sensor dslr.

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