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Obama - worst negotiator in U.S. History? Read on......
Dec 20, 2015 12:28:26   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
Obama, possibly the greatest negotiating failure failure in U.S. history.

Look at his dismal record on his "big ticket"items:

>the Iranian nuclear accord - First and foremost is the complete failure of an agreement with Iran. The Iran nuclear accord is possibly the most failed "treaty" ever negotiated by the United States. It's an alleged treaty that not only did the U.S. congress never ratify, it was never signed or ratified by the Iranian government! That's right, the Iranian parliament never approved it, the Iranian president never signed it, they broke the "treaty" twice in the first 3-4 months following it, and Obama and Kerry still pound their chests about how they saved the future of the world with it.
GRADE:F

>the Paris climate accord - Again, no ratifications or signed legal agreements by any of the over 190 nations, but just a litany of chest-thumping promises made on an individual basis, mostly from successful countries (ie. The U.S. And Europe) and effectively ignored or made fun of by China, India and Brazil, to t***sfer wealth to third and second world nations. Oh, did I mention there is nothing legally binding about it? That its voluntary? And, again, there is Obama and Kerry screaming they have saved the future of the world.

It's sad that the earths greatest reforester and carbon sink builder (read the U.S.) is involved at all in a conference, or f**e treaty, that doesn't acknowledge the importance of carbon sinks in the levels of carbon in the air or the fact that we are the single country on earth that has decreased its carbon footprint.
GRADE:F

>Obamacare - anyone who buys insurance, has joined a network (or tried), or made claims now realizes that it is in the death throes of an economic collapse. This is a simple point of fact and is not really arguable. In this case, Obama passed one of the largest entitlements in history without the will, way, temperament, or intelligence to include an entire half of his nation. He not only passed it without a single GOP v**e (another wonderful historic first for Obama!), he never found it important to even listen or consider any of their suggestions and wants on the clear and obvious shortcomings of the bill itself. Despite the few wonderful things included, such as no pre-expiation conditions, it is in the mid point or beyond of being a colossal failure and can only be saved by massive changes, soon. And, again (but on a smaller scale) Obama beats his chest and declares he has saved the American way of life by installing this European-based system
GRADE:F

All in all, I hope he stays on vacation and doesn't get involved in any more negotiations!

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Dec 21, 2015 02:37:05   #
gmcase Loc: Galt's Gulch
 
The grades of "F" would fit IF, and that is a very big IF, unless his goal was accomplished. In that case he would score the destruction to the country as "A".

Nobody could be as inept and stupid as it seems he is. It is a contradiction in the minds of many evidenced by them scratching their heads over his actions. When you see what appears to be a contradiction check your premisies. He is intentionally destroying the country as fast as he can get away with it. With this premise everything he does or fails to do makes perfect sense and there are no contradictions. He is an enemy of our country. He was raised to that end and he has succeeded in causing widspread damage of which some will last for generations.

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Dec 21, 2015 03:19:49   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
Cykdelic wrote:
Obama, possibly the greatest negotiating failure failure in U.S. history.

Look at his dismal record on his "big ticket"items:

>the Iranian nuclear accord - First and foremost is the complete failure of an agreement with Iran. The Iran nuclear accord is possibly the most failed "treaty" ever negotiated by the United States. It's an alleged treaty that not only did the U.S. congress never ratify, it was never signed or ratified by the Iranian government! That's right, the Iranian parliament never approved it, the Iranian president never signed it, they broke the "treaty" twice in the first 3-4 months following it, and Obama and Kerry still pound their chests about how they saved the future of the world with it.
GRADE:F

>the Paris climate accord - Again, no ratifications or signed legal agreements by any of the over 190 nations, but just a litany of chest-thumping promises made on an individual basis, mostly from successful countries (ie. The U.S. And Europe) and effectively ignored or made fun of by China, India and Brazil, to t***sfer wealth to third and second world nations. Oh, did I mention there is nothing legally binding about it? That its voluntary? And, again, there is Obama and Kerry screaming they have saved the future of the world.

It's sad that the earths greatest reforester and carbon sink builder (read the U.S.) is involved at all in a conference, or f**e treaty, that doesn't acknowledge the importance of carbon sinks in the levels of carbon in the air or the fact that we are the single country on earth that has decreased its carbon footprint.
GRADE:F

>Obamacare - anyone who buys insurance, has joined a network (or tried), or made claims now realizes that it is in the death throes of an economic collapse. This is a simple point of fact and is not really arguable. In this case, Obama passed one of the largest entitlements in history without the will, way, temperament, or intelligence to include an entire half of his nation. He not only passed it without a single GOP v**e (another wonderful historic first for Obama!), he never found it important to even listen or consider any of their suggestions and wants on the clear and obvious shortcomings of the bill itself. Despite the few wonderful things included, such as no pre-expiation conditions, it is in the mid point or beyond of being a colossal failure and can only be saved by massive changes, soon. And, again (but on a smaller scale) Obama beats his chest and declares he has saved the American way of life by installing this European-based system
GRADE:F

All in all, I hope he stays on vacation and doesn't get involved in any more negotiations!
Obama, possibly the greatest negotiating failure ... (show quote)


The sky is falling, the sky is falling, and you learned it first from a poster on the Attic--the only place to get true information.

Forget Foreign Affairs Monthly, but trust The Attic.

Yea, I get it...you know it all.

Give it a rest!

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Dec 21, 2015 08:01:19   #
BigBear Loc: Northern CT
 
We know he doesn't negotiate.
He takes all he can from Americans and gives it to those who want to k**l us !!

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Dec 21, 2015 08:35:50   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
Twardlow wrote:
The sky is falling, the sky is falling, and you learned it first from a poster on the Attic--the only place to get true information.

Forget Foreign Affairs Monthly, but trust The Attic.

Yea, I get it...you know it all.

Give it a rest!



I get it, twardlow.....you're a goose stepping liberal who actually believes Obamacare is solvent and well, the Iranian deal is perfect, and the U.S. Has a responsibility to destroy its economy for China and India. Yeah, you libs know it all.......not!

Go back to your Alinsky projects.

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Dec 21, 2015 08:51:13   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
Cykdelic wrote:
Obama, possibly the greatest negotiating failure failure in U.S. history.

Look at his dismal record on his "big ticket"items:

>the Iranian nuclear accord - First and foremost is the complete failure of an agreement with Iran. The Iran nuclear accord is possibly the most failed "treaty" ever negotiated by the United States. It's an alleged treaty that not only did the U.S. congress never ratify, it was never signed or ratified by the Iranian government! That's right, the Iranian parliament never approved it, the Iranian president never signed it, they broke the "treaty" twice in the first 3-4 months following it, and Obama and Kerry still pound their chests about how they saved the future of the world with it.
GRADE:F

>the Paris climate accord - Again, no ratifications or signed legal agreements by any of the over 190 nations, but just a litany of chest-thumping promises made on an individual basis, mostly from successful countries (ie. The U.S. And Europe) and effectively ignored or made fun of by China, India and Brazil, to t***sfer wealth to third and second world nations. Oh, did I mention there is nothing legally binding about it? That its voluntary? And, again, there is Obama and Kerry screaming they have saved the future of the world.

It's sad that the earths greatest reforester and carbon sink builder (read the U.S.) is involved at all in a conference, or f**e treaty, that doesn't acknowledge the importance of carbon sinks in the levels of carbon in the air or the fact that we are the single country on earth that has decreased its carbon footprint.
GRADE:F

>Obamacare - anyone who buys insurance, has joined a network (or tried), or made claims now realizes that it is in the death throes of an economic collapse. This is a simple point of fact and is not really arguable. In this case, Obama passed one of the largest entitlements in history without the will, way, temperament, or intelligence to include an entire half of his nation. He not only passed it without a single GOP v**e (another wonderful historic first for Obama!), he never found it important to even listen or consider any of their suggestions and wants on the clear and obvious shortcomings of the bill itself. Despite the few wonderful things included, such as no pre-expiation conditions, it is in the mid point or beyond of being a colossal failure and can only be saved by massive changes, soon. And, again (but on a smaller scale) Obama beats his chest and declares he has saved the American way of life by installing this European-based system
GRADE:F

All in all, I hope he stays on vacation and doesn't get involved in any more negotiations!
Obama, possibly the greatest negotiating failure ... (show quote)


Obama is perhaps unique in Persidential politics. He is faithfully fulfilling his main promise. He is quite sucessfully fundamentally changing the United States. He doesn't like the US as founded and is trying his best to make the US the country he thinks it shoud be. He has distain for the constitution and has said so. He is a proponant of one of the main Comunist's precepts- redistribution of wealth. He is, quite simply, the most distructive president in history. Please excuse my spelling misteaks,

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Dec 21, 2015 08:58:06   #
BigBear Loc: Northern CT
 
boberic wrote:
Obama is perhaps unique in Persidential politics. He is faithfully fulfilling his main promise. He is quite sucessfully fundamentally changing the United States. He doesn't like the US as founded and is trying his best to make the US the country he thinks it shoud be. He has distain for the constitution and has said so. He is a proponant of one of the main Comunist's precepts- redistribution of wealth. He is, quite simply, the most distructive president in history. Please excuse my spelling misteaks,
Obama is perhaps unique in Persidential politics. ... (show quote)


You're too kind ….

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Dec 21, 2015 09:01:39   #
Checkmate Loc: Southern California
 
Twardlow wrote:
The sky is falling, the sky is falling, and you learned it first from a poster on the Attic--the only place to get true information.

Forget Foreign Affairs Monthly, but trust The Attic.

Yea, I get it...you know it all.

Give it a rest!


GRADE: F-

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Dec 21, 2015 09:53:36   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
Twardlow wrote:
The sky is falling, the sky is falling, and you learned it first from a poster on the Attic--the only place to get true information.

Forget Foreign Affairs Monthly, but trust The Attic.

Yea, I get it...you know it all.

Give it a rest!


Just look at the facts as you know them,just the facts mam,just the facts...

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Dec 21, 2015 09:56:06   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
yhtomit wrote:
Just look at the facts as you know them,just the facts mam,just the facts...


He'll never let the facts get in the way of good dogma!

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