davidv Loc: salt lake city utah

Hello and Merry Christmass. I was wondering what could I purchase instead of PS? Where I live I do not have unlimited internet. I have a hotspot with only 15 gb per month, and thats $80.00. I already have Lightroom but just wanted something to fill in the gaps like removing blemishes,wires,people. Thank you for reading this,Dave

Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.

Photoshop does not require a great deal of bandwidth, where did you get that idea?

Other than the initial download, once the package is installed on your computer it only uses the internet to receive a few bytes of data every few months to verify your subscription (I assume you are talking Photoshop CC).

Armadillo Loc: Ventura, CA

david,

You can try Paint Shop Pro X-8 for free for 30 days, you cna order the CD, and you can perform all your editing without the requirement of being connected to the internet.

Their contact us page:
http://www.corel.com/us/contact-us/?_ga=1.241809026.1691820029.1446685854

Michael G

Rongnongno Loc: FL

Use GIMP, free of charge, does not use internet at all but for the initial download.

PS CC does not download anything w/o you saying so You can plan when and what to update. If you use the cloud storage for picture and sync that will go against your UL/DL volume.

If you use windows 10 your bandwidth is clogged with data leaking out if your PC all the time.

jethro779 Loc: Tucson, AZ

Don, I think the initial download is what eats the most of the limited allowance of data. I know when I had a pc card for Verizon back about 7 years ago that I had to load my programs from home as if I used the data allowance on my PC card modem I ate up all my monthly allowance.
I try to be open minded about things, but the creative cloud thing that Adobe is trying reminds me of the goat they use at slaughter houses to lead the sheep to the kill line.

bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA

A very strong combination, purchased on disks, is Lightroom and Photoshop Elements. I used that combination for a few years and enjoyed it. Yes, Photoshop Elements has some easy, novice features. It also has an expert mode that shares a lot with the "pro" version.

Recently I've been using the CC versions of LR and Photoshop to learn and discover what I might be missing. I'm doing it more for brain exercise than a need for more power and tools. So far, I'm finding there is little practical need at the tool level to have to use the CC pro versions.

Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.

Full Photoshop is only 1.8 GB on my Mac... can't be much bigger on a PC, so with 80 GB per month 1.8 is not a whole lot I would think.

The download would only happen once, from then on it is on the disk, so it is not a per use thing.

jethro779 Loc: Tucson, AZ

I wasn't sure how big the download was.

Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington

I have been extremely happy with Photoshop Elements. As mentioned, the several levels (quick, guided, expert) help keep tools out of sight until you're ready to tackle.

Elements also hosts the Topaz products and Nik Collection, for when you're ready to move further or just play :)

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

Paint Shop Pro X8 is a good choice. I use it more than I do PS. I have been using versions of it for over 10 years.

But even better for you might be PSE 14 which will interface with LR very well. Then for $12 you can add "Elements+" which will unlock a lot of the the full fledged PS features that are still embedded in the PSE code but just blocked off and inactive.

bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA

Robert,

May I suggest that Elements+ is a third party plugin that adds features like other plugins do. You may find that although Adobe owns both Photoshop and Photoshop Elements, the code is actually developed separately. Elements is not a restricted code set with "blocked off and inactive" features.

Adobe has a fun way of congratulating their developer teams. There names are listed on the opening splash screens. Read the names for Photoshop and compare them with Photoshop Elements. It will give you a serious clue as to how they make it work. Basically, if a Photoshop feature becomes desirable, the Elements team engineers something similar a year or two later. Actual code is not shared.

dsnoke Loc: North Georgia, USA

Also take a look at Lightzone. It is also free, although I suggest a small donation to keep it going. I find Lightzone more intuitive than a lot of other programs, but YMMV.

Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.

Another note: Elements is still an 8 bit editor, while Photoshop and others are 16 bit...

What does that mean?

http://www.photokaboom.com/photography/learn/Photoshop_Elements/bit_depth_8_v_16/1_bit_depth_8_v_16.htm

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

Gee, guess I misread all those reviews that said it unlocks hidden features. Including the one from the guy who developed it.

And the man is a miracle worker since he put all that stuff into less than 30MB.


Also, since PS and Elements share a lot of features it really doesn't make much sense to have them be totally separate from each other. That would be like re-inventing the wheel with two different design teams. It would make more sense to have the Elements team take the full featured program and follow directions to "make it simple".

Mirror of that, take the Elements program and tell the PS team to "improve and expand".

Your way: 2 teams, both told "Create a program that does X,Y,Z and 1-2-3. Then you guys add P,Q,R and G, also 7-8-9 and 33. Seems like a really hard way to do it when one set of base code for a program with modifications would be faster, simpler and cheaper. (more profit)

Seems that after a few years you would have two completely different and incompatible programs.

But, who knows, maybe Harry Potter just waves a wand and presto, both PS and PSE just appear.

G Brown Loc: Sunny Bognor Regis West Sussex UK

Gimp is 16 bit and a test version of 32 bit raw is available if you like beta versions.