Canon on Canon: I have been looking at the 70d and just run across and article on the EOS 7D Mark II. How big of a difference is there and would it be worth the extra buck for an...

Bushymonster Loc: Oklahoma City. OK.

I have been looking at the 70d and just run across and article on the EOS 7D Mark II. How big of a difference is there and would it be worth the extra buck for an amateur? The reason I ask is this will be the only chance for me to upgrade for good and I am going to take some classes in photography and try to get damn serious about my work and I want to get a serious about shooting. You have never let me down before and I can't see you doing it now. I appreciate it a lot.
-Bushy

Dave R. Loc: PNW

I have the 7D Mark II but no experience with the 70d nor have I researched it. When I bought my MII it was because the body was better for my kind of shooting. So I guess my point is it may depend on what you enjoy shooting. Good luck and no doubt others will chime in and give great advice.

Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.

Bushymonster wrote:

I have been looking at the 70d and just run across and article on the EOS 7D Mark II. How big of a difference is there and would it be worth the extra buck for an amateur? The reason I ask is this will be the only chance for me to upgrade for good and I am going to take some classes in photography and try to get damn serious about my work and I want to get a serious about shooting. You have never let me down before and I can't see you doing it now. I appreciate it a lot.
-Bushy

I guess it depends what you are looking for. The 70D is about two years old now, and a well regarded camera. The 7DmkII is newer and the top of the line for Canon's APS-C cameras. There are some very good deals on it now, also bundled with a Pixma Pro 100 that you could either keep or sell on ebay etc. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1176700-REG/canon_eos_7d_mark_ii.html

If you are looking at your 'bucket list' camera then the 7DmkII could be the one to get, although it will have a learning curve as a result of its extensive capabilities.

If there is a downside to the 7DmkII it's probably that you won't be able to blame the camera for any less than spectacular results! :-D

RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia

If you are shooting sport and/or birds in flight etc then go for the 7DII - even better autofocus, higher frame rate and larger buffer.

See the Digital Photography Review of the 7DII

I use a Canon 70D (along with other bodies).

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

Bushymonster wrote:

I have been looking at the 70d and just run across and article on the EOS 7D Mark II. How big of a difference is there and would it be worth the extra buck for an amateur? The reason I ask is this will be the only chance for me to upgrade for good and I am going to take some classes in photography and try to get damn serious about my work and I want to get a serious about shooting. You have never let me down before and I can't see you doing it now. I appreciate it a lot.
-Bushy

No one can really answer that question for you. The 70D is more of a consumer product. The 7D2 is more of a semi Pro/Professional body. Its bigger, heavier, has a magnetism alloy body, and a host of more professional features. It does not have a fold out touch screen like the 70D. It's controls and buttons are more solid and professional feeling. It has 65 focus points vs the 70Ds 19. They both have 20.2 mp sensors although the 7D2 had slightly better low light performance. Probably the biggest difference between the two is the 7D2's more advanced AF system and 10 frames per second. The differences in the images between both bodies is probably not very significant. I have a 7D2 and love it. The 70D is more of an upgrade to my 60D.

DWU2 Loc: Phoenix Arizona area

I have the 7dMII, and like it a lot.

Pro's: burst rate (great for BIF's), focusing capabilities, build, weather sealing, custom modes.

Con's: No articulating screen, heavy, more complex than Rebels, no beginner modes.

Regarding the weather sealing - I slipped on wet rocks in the Smokies, and the camera and I went into the creek. I thought it was a goner from the immersion, but it suffered no damage whatsoever! The Sigma 10-20 lens likewise survived unscathed.

SharpShooter Loc: NorCal

Bushymonster wrote:

I have been looking at the 70d and just run across and article on the EOS 7D Mark II. How big of a difference is there and would it be worth the extra buck for an amateur? The reason I ask is this will be the only chance for me to upgrade for good and I am going to take some classes in photography and try to get damn serious about my work and I want to get a serious about shooting. You have never let me down before and I can't see you doing it now. I appreciate it a lot.
-Bushy

I'm gonna suggest that if you have to ask, you probably don't need it, or you would already know you need it!!!
Save your money and get a new lens!!!
Just my way of thinking anyway.........., good luck. ;-)
SS

rjaywallace Loc: Wisconsin

Bushy - Go to YouTube and look for reviews of the 7D Mk II - there is a "hands on" review of this camera in actual field conditions. The review features a highly regarded staff photographer from National Geographic and a senior staff reviewer from DPReview. Together they do one of the best reviews I've ever seen - highly recommended.

dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia

Bushymonster wrote:

I have been looking at the 70d and just run across and article on the EOS 7D Mark II. How big of a difference is there and would it be worth the extra buck for an amateur? The reason I ask is this will be the only chance for me to upgrade for good and I am going to take some classes in photography and try to get damn serious about my work and I want to get a serious about shooting. You have never let me down before and I can't see you doing it now. I appreciate it a lot.
-Bushy

You may find this odd, but there is a reason Canon has different cameras. The cameras are designed for different needs. You say nothing about your needs as a photographer. As a result it is impossible to answer your questions.

What do you want to shoot? In what kind of environment?

RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia

The lens question ("What Canon lens should I buy first ") and subjects was covered in the OP's previous previous topic created.

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"I shoot a lot of portrait and flowers and landscapes, a little of everything"
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CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

RichardTaylor wrote:

The lens question ("What Canon lens should I buy first ") and subjects was covered in the OP's previous previous topic created.

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"I shoot a lot of portrait and flowers and landscapes, a little of everything"
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and shooting flowers and portraits at 10 fps is a waste of $1000 if not more ....

australis Loc: Patagonia, South America

I used the two camera.- For your use, buy the 70D .- In this moment is great Price !!! With the difference buy a good lens .-

Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida

Bushymonster wrote:

I have been looking at the 70d and just run across and article on the EOS 7D Mark II. How big of a difference is there and would it be worth the extra buck for an amateur? The reason I ask is this will be the only chance for me to upgrade for good and I am going to take some classes in photography and try to get damn serious about my work and I want to get a serious about shooting. You have never let me down before and I can't see you doing it now. I appreciate it a lot.
-Bushy

Buy the better camera. If you don't, you will soon be wishing that you had. This wish will be more intense when you are taking classes, and become "damn serious".

Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.

Kmgw9v wrote:

Buy the better camera. If you don't you will soon be wishing that you had.

With much respect, I have a hard time with that advice. Buy the better system, I could agree with.

There is a balance between cameras, lenses, lighting and other things that all play into the equation.

There is no single best device at this level..

Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida

Peterff wrote:

With much respect, I have a hard time with that advice. Buy the better system, I could agree with.

There is a balance between cameras, lenses, lighting and other things that all play into the equation.

There is no single best device at this level..

OK. Buy the 7D--for the same reason.