Los-Angeles-Shooter Loc: Los Angeles

So How Much of this ‘Hybrid’ Attack Was Jihadism?

Yesterday the country got the perfect Rorschach test of violence. People who want to downplay violent Islamist jiahdism and self-radicalization among American-born Muslims will see “workplace violence” or an excuse for another gun control push. Others will contend this is an Islamist sleeper cell, even if it isn’t formally set up by ISIS or al-Qaeda.
CNN summarizes what is known about Syed Rizwan Farook and

Tashfeen Malik:
Police say Farook, 28, and Malik, 27, are either married or in a relationship. The Council on American Islamic Relations, a Muslim advocacy group, said Farook has been married for two years -- but wouldn’t confirm whether Malik was the wife’s name.

Farook and his wife left their 6-month-old girl with Farook’s grandmother Wednesday and said they had a doctor’s appointment.

They abandoned their child? Okay, stop. This was not driven by a workplace dispute. To leave your infant child and then commit horrific violence that is likely to lead to your death from police action requires an almost otherworldly devotion to . . . some other cause, something you consider more important than life, death, and the inherent biological urge to protect your offspring. “Larry from accounting keeps taking the last doughnut at staff meetings” or “they took my red Swingline stapler” isn’t the sort of motive at work here.

What motivation have we seen that would make seemingly ordinary people go on mass-murdering attacks? What ideology or twisted religious fervor have we seen people willing to sacrifice their children for, willing to die for?

How religious was he?
Farook, an American citizen, worked for the San Bernardino County Department of Health for the past few years and had a young daughter, his shocked father told the Daily News.

“I haven’t heard anything,” the elder Syed Farook told The News before his son’s name became public. “He was very religious. He would go to work, come back, go to pray, come back. He’s Muslim.”

Brad Thor notices the Council on American Islamic Relations sure got in front of the cameras fast.

Oh, hm.
A family member identified Malik as Farook’s wife, according to the Los Angeles Times. Farook’s coworkers told reporters from the same outlet that he had recently traveled to Saudi Arabia and came back to the United States with a wife whom he had met on the Internet.

Someone will insist, “Oh, they were just crazy.” But there was nothing impulsive about this, as we see from leaving their child with the grandmother. These two put a lot of pr********n into this:

Soon, however, he stormed out in anger. The nature of the dispute was not clear, but when he returned with his wife, 27, both of them were dressed in tactical gear and carrying assault rifles, officials said. That level of pr********n is among the factors investigators are weighing as they examine a motive for the attack.

Chief Jarrod Burguan of the San Bernardino Police Department said at a news conference that the attack did not seem to be “a spur-of-the-moment thing.”

Plus . . . small, portable GoPro cameras:
A law enforcement source told Fox News that the couple were each carrying an AR-15 rifle and a pistol when they were shot and k**led by police after a brief chase in their black SUV about 2 miles from the initial shooting site. The source said the vehicle also contained so-called “rollout bags” with multiple pipe bombs, as well as additional ammunition. The couple also had GoPro cameras strapped to their body armor and wore tactical clothing, including vests stuffed with ammunition magazines.

“That’s a military tactic for a sustained fight,” the source told Fox News of the rollout bags.

That’s the sort of thing you bring if you want to make videos to terrorize other people, and rally others to their cause or ideology . . . it also would explain why they left the scene instead of staying to shoot it out with police at the social services facility. They intended to live to tell the tale, at least for a while.

Each detail of this story adds one more layer of “what the hell?”
The couple didn’t leave behind a note at Inland Regional. But they did stash three explosive devices -- r****d to a remote-controlled toy car -- that didn’t go off.

See, when your perpetrators are using explosive devices, it’s stupid to argue that gun-control laws are the right solution here.

Inevitably, someone will call for “better background checks!” Except all of their guns were purchased legally -- no criminal record, no record of mental-health issues -- or taken from someone else who also passed a background check:

Two .223 caliber rifles were in the car with them, along with two pistols.
They were legally purchased, police said.

Two handguns traced back to Farook, an official said. He bought them three to four years ago.

Someone else bought the two rifles, possibly a former roommate -- also legally three or four years ago.

Once again, short of nationwide mandatory confiscation of all firearms from civilians, no gun law would have prevented this. Not a seven-day waiting period. No “gun show loophole” applied. Limits on how much ammunition a gun can carry at one time might have had a marginal impact; there’s little sign the shooters encountered much resistance at the social services facility. Initial reports indicated they had as much time to reload as they needed and brought multiple weapons

nakkh Loc: San Mateo, Ca

It's very rare for there to be more than one shooter in these mass shootings.

My question is, didn't their neighbors notice any strange activity at these people's house? The place was a bomb factory.

Zophman Loc: Northwest

It has been reported that a neighbor observed, shall we say "unusual behavior, but was concerned that her concern fell into "profiling" and might be deemed not politically correct t.

Los-Angeles-Shooter Loc: Los Angeles

This was a jihad massacre so the multiple terrorist aspect is not that unusual. The presence of bombs and explosive booby traps, some designed to k**l police and medical responders, is also typical and is taught on jihadist websites.

At least one neighbor noticed very suspicious activity but did not report it for fear of being accused of "Islamophobia."

Some of the news reports showed photos of the woman in full face covering "Niqab." However, almost all major media are hiding the jihad aspects and falsely presenting the attack as a "workplace incident."

SBW

Wow, MSNBC really leaves you dullards in the dark don't they? You need to find another news source besides your usual diet of left wing stuff that ALWAYS hides many facts.
Yes there was a neighbor that had noticed unusual behavior and suspicious activity. She wanted to report them but did not. You know why? Because of people like YOU and your lefty friends. She stated she wanted to report them but she was afraid of being "accused of racial profiling". Her words not mine. In other words she was being politically correct because of an environment created by people like you. Just more left wing crap.
Political correctness is k*****g innocent people. Because of the likes of you. See what MSNBC has to say about that.

nakkh Loc: San Mateo, Ca

Poor shortpants- so much anger. So often wrong...

SBW

You are damn right I am angry. The fact that you are not says much.

Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

That's why the Liberal mind is as dangerous if not more dangerous than an Islamist mind.

Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

OH you are not angry because of the damage you Liberals cause in the minds of Americans, you type of liberals should be charged with treason because it is YOU liberals who instill fear into people for the wrong reasons.

cascadia13 Loc: Puget Sound, Willamette Valley

Given that the attackers were attending a holiday party at the office where he was employed, left the party apparently after some sort of dispute, and then returned in full tactical gear, it would appear to me that they were indeed planning some sort of major terrorist act(indicated by the sheer amount of firepower and explosive devices found after the fact), but wh**ever t***spired at the party led them to take action prematurely. In any event, none of the national or international news media that I have observed are "hiding the jihad aspects", nor are they attempting to present it as solely a workplace violence incident. They are merely commenting on the fact that there are aspects of both present in this tragedy.

SteveR Loc: Michigan

California has some of the strictest gun laws, and yet was unable to stop this massacre. Between nuts and Muslim extremists, we in for a long winter. I'm beginning to think the open carry folks may have an answer to this. More guns and not less may be the answer after all.

SBW

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Thank goodness.

nakkh Loc: San Mateo, Ca

Remember, All you have to do to get around a strict gun law is drive a few miles where there's no strict gun laws. That's the problem in this country.

Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, Colorado

Ah froggy, I don't really see this as a problem, but more like a solution.

SBW

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