Brain Neurons Are Well Organized, Not Spaghetti Cables
Dec 1, 2015 22:12:58 #
Racmanaz
Loc: Sunny Tucson!
"Most neurons in the visual cortex behave similarly to their neighbors. Exceptions are "pinwheels" -- singular points "around which the preferred orientations of the cells are arranged as the winglets of a pinwheel." They looked to see if the number and orientation of these pinwheels was random. It was not; the observations do not fit the random hypothesis.
"How would this evolve by a Darwinian process? The visual cortex does not "see" the outside world. If you were a neuron, operating in the dark inside brain tissue, you would only sense chemical signals coming and going. How would neuron's ever "know" how to "self-organize" in such a way that their representations of incoming signals would form a 576-megapixel motion picture that corresponds to the external world?"
"No mutation or series of mutations would lead to a 100-million-volume sorted library. Try getting that out of a pile of random computer cable subjected to random kicks! We know of only one cause that can organize "spaghetti cable" into a functioning network. That cause is intelligence."
"This suggests irreducible complexity of the system. It's not going to improve if a mutation affects one of the proteins in the triad; it's going to break."
"Interesting as these signals are, they don't explain the larger issue: How do these proteins know when and where to signal? How can a single protein know the "big picture" that the body is aiming for during development? It's analogous to city planners designing a computer center to control the city's traffic signals. Somebody or something with a plan and purpose has to know the overall design goal and how to build it."
http://www.evolutionnews.org/2015/11/brain_neurons_a101211.html
"How would this evolve by a Darwinian process? The visual cortex does not "see" the outside world. If you were a neuron, operating in the dark inside brain tissue, you would only sense chemical signals coming and going. How would neuron's ever "know" how to "self-organize" in such a way that their representations of incoming signals would form a 576-megapixel motion picture that corresponds to the external world?"
"No mutation or series of mutations would lead to a 100-million-volume sorted library. Try getting that out of a pile of random computer cable subjected to random kicks! We know of only one cause that can organize "spaghetti cable" into a functioning network. That cause is intelligence."
"This suggests irreducible complexity of the system. It's not going to improve if a mutation affects one of the proteins in the triad; it's going to break."
"Interesting as these signals are, they don't explain the larger issue: How do these proteins know when and where to signal? How can a single protein know the "big picture" that the body is aiming for during development? It's analogous to city planners designing a computer center to control the city's traffic signals. Somebody or something with a plan and purpose has to know the overall design goal and how to build it."
http://www.evolutionnews.org/2015/11/brain_neurons_a101211.html
Dec 1, 2015 22:53:48 #
Racmanaz wrote:
b "Most neurons in the visual cortex behave ... (show quote)
Let me be the first to mock you...
Dec 2, 2015 08:21:07 #
nakkh wrote:
Let me be the first to mock you...
Because days are measured by the rotation of the earth mocker!
Dec 2, 2015 10:56:20 #
silver
Loc: Santa Monica Ca.
Racmanaz wrote:
b "Most neurons in the visual cortex behave ... (show quote)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA more silly nonsense from rac. http://www.phy.duke.edu/~rgb/Philosophy/axioms/axioms/node47.html
Dec 2, 2015 11:00:37 #
LarJgrip wrote:
you don't really want to go there do you?Because days are measured by the rotation of the earth
mocker!
Then God said: Let there be light, and there was light.
God saw that the light was good. God then separated the light from the darkness.
God called the light day, and the darkness he called night. Evening came, and morning followedthe first day.
light- day 1
sun & stars day 4
ooopS!
Dec 2, 2015 11:07:21 #
silver
Loc: Santa Monica Ca.
green wrote:
you don't really want to go there do you?
Then God said: Let there be light, and there was light.
God saw that the light was good. God then separated the light from the darkness.
God called the light day, and the darkness he called night. Evening came, and morning followedthe first day.
light- day 1
sun & stars day 4
ooopS!
Then God said: Let there be light, and there was light.
God saw that the light was good. God then separated the light from the darkness.
God called the light day, and the darkness he called night. Evening came, and morning followedthe first day.
light- day 1
sun & stars day 4
ooopS!
How could there be days with no sun and moon? I think that the bible is really mixed up with the first three so called days.
Dec 2, 2015 11:49:04 #
Racmanaz
Loc: Sunny Tucson!
green wrote:
you don't really want to go there do you?
Then God said: Let there be light, and there was light.
God saw that the light was good. God then separated the light from the darkness.
God called the light day, and the darkness he called night. Evening came, and morning followedthe first day.
light- day 1
sun & stars day 4
ooopS!
Then God said: Let there be light, and there was light.
God saw that the light was good. God then separated the light from the darkness.
God called the light day, and the darkness he called night. Evening came, and morning followedthe first day.
light- day 1
sun & stars day 4
ooopS!
This reveals the apparent ignorance of most atheists and you, you seem to forget the He is God and not subject to physics as humans understand it. Why not ask, how could Jesus be born of a virgin and with no human sperm? That's the same "logic" you and most people use, but it is understandable why you and others ask. How could Jesus turn water into wine?
Dec 2, 2015 11:57:34 #
Racmanaz wrote:
...but can you consider the possibility that the ancients who actually believed that the sky was a bowl... may have gotten things a bit mixed up?This reveals the apparent ignorance of most atheists and you, you seem to forget the He is God and not subject to physics as humans understand it. Why not ask, how could Jesus be born of a virgin and with no human sperm? That's the same "logic" you and most people use, but it is understandable why you and others ask. How could Jesus turn water into wine?
Dec 2, 2015 12:04:33 #
Racmanaz
Loc: Sunny Tucson!
green wrote:
...but can you consider the possibility that the ancients who actually believed that the sky was a bowl... may have gotten things a bit mixed up?
Not sure which ancients you are referring to, so I can't answer your question.
Dec 2, 2015 13:26:34 #
Racmanaz wrote:
the ones that wrote the OT... I would guess Moses and his gang.Not sure which ancients you are referring to, so I can't answer your question.
Dec 2, 2015 13:32:06 #
Racmanaz
Loc: Sunny Tucson!
green wrote:
the ones that wrote the OT... I would guess Moses and his gang.
Show with me where they believed what you claimed they did.
Dec 2, 2015 13:32:07 #
Racmanaz
Loc: Sunny Tucson!
green wrote:
the ones that wrote the OT... I would guess Moses and his gang.
Show with me where they believed what you claimed they did.
Dec 2, 2015 16:47:17 #
Racmanaz wrote:
b "Most neurons in the visual cortex behave ... (show quote)
Your "reasoning" powers and your conclusions, which you base on the science of others (not yours), that you present above, are absolutely bazaar.
There is no mention of the words "intelligence" as you use it, above, nor is their any mention of "irreducible complexity" in any of the science which you present above. Those are your words, which you borrow from evolution news (a real publication farce), and your analogy to "city planners" is horrendous.
You, Clown, would not pass a first grade science class, nor would those at Evolution News, where you acquired this stupidity..
Dec 2, 2015 16:54:50 #
Quote:
green wrote:
you don't really want to go there do you?
Then God said: Let there be light, and there was light.
God saw that the light was good. God then separated the light from the darkness.
God called the light day, and the darkness he called night. Evening came, and morning followedthe first day.
light- day 1
sun & stars day 4
ooopS!
you don't really want to go there do you?
Then God said: Let there be light, and there was light.
God saw that the light was good. God then separated the light from the darkness.
God called the light day, and the darkness he called night. Evening came, and morning followedthe first day.
light- day 1
sun & stars day 4
ooopS!
Racmanaz wrote:
Total mythology, Clown, not reason. You have always had a big problem confusing the two.This reveals the apparent ignorance of most atheists and you, you seem to forget the He is God and not subject to physics as humans understand it. Why not ask, how could Jesus be born of a virgin and with no human sperm? That's the same "logic" you and most people use, but it is understandable why you and others ask. How could Jesus turn water into wine?
Dec 2, 2015 16:56:41 #
Racmanaz wrote:
It is you who is ignorant, Clown. You dwell in it.This reveals the apparent ignorance of most atheists and you, you seem to forget the He is God and not subject to physics as humans understand it. Why not ask, how could Jesus be born of a virgin and with no human sperm? That's the same "logic" you and most people use, but it is understandable why you and others ask. How could Jesus turn water into wine?
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