I've saved up enough pennies to purchase a new FF body and since I've already got a bunch of Canon stuff I figured I'd get a new Canon. I'm looking at the new 5DS or the 5DSr and can't decide which one will better fit my needs/wants. From what I've read the odds of unwanted moiré with the 5DSr is slim and has a lot to do with the image subject. I enjoy photographing birds and am concerned the fine detail in feathers may cause the unwanted moiré with the 5DSr model. I do a lot of cropping so the sharper the detail the better. Any one have any experience with the 5DSr and or the 5DS?!
I also had to make the decision and I went with the 5Ds,sorry I can't help you out on this one
davidrb
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rmorrison1116 wrote:
I've saved up enough pennies to purchase a new FF body and since I've already got a bunch of Canon stuff I figured I'd get a new Canon. I'm looking at the new 5DS or the 5DSr and can't decide which one will better fit my needs/wants. From what I've read the odds of unwanted moiré with the 5DSr is slim and has a lot to do with the image subject. I enjoy photographing birds and am concerned the fine detail in feathers may cause the unwanted moiré with the 5DSr model. I do a lot of cropping so the sharper the detail the better. Any one have any experience with the 5DSr and or the 5DS?!
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The-digital-picture.com has an excellent side-by-side comparison of these two cameras. Bryan does a great job of differentiating the features of each. He is a photographer, not a lab rat and his reviews reflect that fact.
rmorrison1116 wrote:
I've saved up enough pennies to purchase a new FF body and since I've already got a bunch of Canon stuff I figured I'd get a new Canon. I'm looking at the new 5DS or the 5DSr and can't decide which one will better fit my needs/wants. From what I've read the odds of unwanted moiré with the 5DSr is slim and has a lot to do with the image subject. I enjoy photographing birds and am concerned the fine detail in feathers may cause the unwanted moiré with the 5DSr model. I do a lot of cropping so the sharper the detail the better. Any one have any experience with the 5DSr and or the 5DS?!
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Personally, I have no experience with the 5sr but have never had a problem(yet) with the 5s or any other camera for that matter. Unless these two cameras are way more susceptible to moire' than other cameras, I never even considered the sr.
First it has to happen. Then, it has to happen on a particular shot that would be award winning, or in some other way be a shot that mattered in some way. If it's never happened to you before(it's never happened to me!) why will it suddenly start happening, and then on the best shot you've ever taken.
If you're a super paranoid type, I'm sure it will happen all the time. If your a gambler, never gonna happen! :lol:
SS
SharpShooter wrote:
Personally, I have no experience with the 5sr but have never had a problem(yet) with the 5s or any other camera for that matter. Unless these two cameras are way more susceptible to moire' than other cameras, I never even considered the sr.
First it has to happen. Then, it has to happen on a particular shot that would be award winning, or in some other way be a shot that mattered in some way. If it's never happened to you before(it's never happened to me!) why will it suddenly start happening, and then on the best shot you've ever taken.
If you're a super paranoid type, I'm sure it will happen all the time. If your a gambler, never gonna happen! :lol:
SS
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Uh, thank you for your response. The only difference between the 5DS and 5DSr is the cancelling of the low pass filter, and about $200. Other than that they are identical. The r version has slightly better resolution then the DS but with the low pass filter effect cancelled, the Sr is more susceptible to moiré. How much more I don't know. I'm just concerned the fine detail in the bird feathers may result in unwanted moiré, I don't know. I was hoping someone here would have experience with the camera.
davidrb wrote:
The-digital-picture.com has an excellent side-by-side comparison of these two cameras. Bryan does a great job of differentiating the features of each. He is a photographer, not a lab rat and his reviews reflect that fact.
Thank you for the direction, I will take a look.
rmorrison1116 wrote:
Uh, thank you for your response. The only difference between the 5DS and 5DSr is the cancelling of the low pass filter, and about $200. Other than that they are identical. The r version has slightly better resolution then the DS but with the low pass filter effect cancelled, the Sr is more susceptible to moiré. How much more I don't know. I'm just concerned the fine detail in the bird feathers may result in unwanted moiré, I don't know. I was hoping someone here would have experience with the camera.
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Try renting the 5DSR first, do some tough shots that might bring out the worst and see what happens.
I went thru the same decision process with the Nikon 800 v 800e.
I bought the e, and I'm very happy. Over the last 3+ years there have been very few times that Moire showed up. This is the standard experience and is why the D810 has no lpf. Keep in mind that the higher resolution the lower chance of Moire. lens sharpness and aperture affects the chance of Moire. If you are using a zoom (even a great one) you probably will never see it.
Also there are ways of reducing Moire (not completely removing).
https://vimeo.com/23508129I think the best advice is to rent the R and see if you can make Moire show up. My guess is if you try real hard you can, but in regular shooting it won't be there.
rmorrison1116 wrote:
I've saved up enough pennies to purchase a new FF body and since I've already got a bunch of Canon stuff I figured I'd get a new Canon. I'm looking at the new 5DS or the 5DSr and can't decide which one will better fit my needs/wants. From what I've read the odds of unwanted moiré with the 5DSr is slim and has a lot to do with the image subject. I enjoy photographing birds and am concerned the fine detail in feathers may cause the unwanted moiré with the 5DSr model. I do a lot of cropping so the sharper the detail the better. Any one have any experience with the 5DSr and or the 5DS?!
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I shot a couple of thousand frames with the 5DSR in Spain about a month ago. Landscape and people and not a hint of moire. I want the extra sharpness. I will be putting my big primes on the 5DSR and expect great things. I have friends shooting birds with 5DSR and big primes and they are getting beautiful photos. They are big files, however! I merged 7 vertical format shots from a 5DSR into a Pano and got an almost 900 MB file over 92,000 pixels wide! A local wedding photo pro is using the 5DS as he did not want the extra sharpness. I want the extra sharpness. Great Body!
rmorrison1116 wrote:
Uh, thank you for your response. The only difference between the 5DS and 5DSr is the cancelling of the low pass filter, and about $200. Other than that they are identical. The r version has slightly better resolution then the DS but with the low pass filter effect cancelled, the Sr is more susceptible to moiré. How much more I don't know. I'm just concerned the fine detail in the bird feathers may result in unwanted moiré, I don't know. I was hoping someone here would have experience with the camera.
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See Deep Green Photography - greg basco is using the 5DSR for birds and landscape
Thank you all for the guidance in helping me with my decision. After digesting the responses and checking out the reference sites I've ordered the 5DSr model. Now I need some really big memory cards...
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