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Nov 3, 2015 06:05:48   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
That is right, you read correctly.

I accidentally stumbled onto a PS CC process that allows removing noise from JPG files or so it seems.

Before I post a tutorial on it I need to verify my workflow using examples that I do not control.

Out of focus capture ok. The process will not change the lack of focus but if it does correct the noise in poor conditions that will be further indication that my 'discovery works'

Please Check the box (store original) and do post unadulterated captures meaning unprocessed.

Thank you.

You can check what I am looking at in this thread and more specifically this post.

Capture use and credit courtesy of rmalarz

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Nov 3, 2015 06:52:39   #
pithydoug Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY
 
A few kaka shots from an indoor gig I had to do. ISO 12,800 so lots of noise. if it helps f5.6 and roughly 1/15 sec.


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Nov 3, 2015 08:02:46   #
Singing Swan
 
Here's one that's not quite right.


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Nov 3, 2015 08:05:13   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
pithydoug wrote:
A few kaka shots from an indoor gig I had to do. ISO 12,800 so lots of noise. if it helps f5.6 and roughly 1/15 sec.

Sorry, utter failure...
:shock: :hunf: :thumbdown:

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Nov 3, 2015 08:44:54   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
Singing Swan wrote:
Here's one that's not quite right.

It works on yours but is this worth the effort???

Pixel peeping shows the difference, otherwise? Well, eye of the beholder and all that.

Will be posting the results shortly.
Before and after... (pixel peep)
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Nov 3, 2015 09:00:14   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
If it's specifically jpeg artefacts that you're looking for, why not take any image and export it as jpeg a few times. The deterioration should be accumulative.

One of the tests for your process is whether it helps with banding or not.....

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Nov 3, 2015 09:03:58   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
The trouble is that it does not really remove JPG artifacts (I wish it did)

Removing them would blur the picture, something I am fighting against.

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Nov 3, 2015 09:15:43   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
Rongnongno wrote:
It works on yours but is this worth the effort??? ...

Probably not since a simple application of Neat Image produces the attached result. Go ahead and peek at these pixels.

That's for about $80 invested and two minutes of effort.


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Nov 3, 2015 09:21:56   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
R.G. wrote:
One of the tests for your process is whether it helps with banding or not.....

It does not remove banding. That can be done with a simple gaussian blur, masking, opacity and blending if to limit the blur.

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Nov 3, 2015 09:23:37   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
Fingerprint correction is an interesting concept. I've long had a suspicion that if you could somehow do a pixel-by-pixel correction for non-linearity and non-uniformity between pixels, you have the potential to produce perfectly rendered images where all of the sensor's imperfections and inconsistencies can be compensated for. It would probably take a fair bit of in-camera processing and it'd probably need some very large correction factor tables, but perfection would be the glittering prize.

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Nov 3, 2015 09:25:55   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
R.G. wrote:
Fingerprint correction is an interesting concept. I've long had a suspicion that if you could somehow do a pixel-by-pixel correction for non-linearity and non-uniformity between pixels, you have the potential to produce perfectly rendered images where all of the sensor's imperfections and inconsistencies can be compensated for. It would probably take a fair bit of in-camera processing and it'd probably need some very large correction factor tables, but perfection would be the glittering prize.
Fingerprint correction is an interesting concept. ... (show quote)

You may want to post this in rmalarzs thread. I am sure he will appreciate your comment. I agree with you by the way.

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Nov 3, 2015 09:29:29   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
R.G. wrote:
... One of the tests for your process is whether it helps with banding or not.....

The best way to deal with banding is to avoid it by doing your work on a 16-bit TIFF or the original raw file.

You are guaranteed to create banding by making graduated adjustments to contrast, etc. while working with an 8-bit image - JPEG, PNG, etc.

Having to remove banding means that you already screwed up.

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Nov 3, 2015 10:14:55   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Sorry, utter failure...
:shock: :hunf: :thumbdown:

That is too much of a challenge.

Here are the Neat Image versions, not an utter failure, less than a minute for each one.


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Nov 3, 2015 13:42:41   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
This shows the real contribution and intent of the ... posting garbage all over the place.

If that idiot does not realize he destroys detail more than anything this his privilege.

I still more samples to check the limits.

Thank you.

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Nov 3, 2015 14:23:35   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
Not too hard to find noisy jpegs in my collection :lol: .

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