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Apr 10, 2012 21:11:25   #
Debby910 Loc: Floida
 
Can someone explain what a pixel peeper is? Not sure I know the what and the why... Thanks!

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Apr 10, 2012 21:35:59   #
CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver
 
Well, it is generally a perjorative term that refers to those who are more concerned with the minutiae of White Balance, PPI, crop sensors vs. Full Frame, RAW vs. jpg, sRGB vs. AdobeRGB 1998, and think using the japanese term for a soft background is cool (I can't bring myself to actually type it)....than they are with what the image actually looks like. They are to photography what a reformed smoker is to a cocktail party. :-)
The term, "whatever works," is a foreign language to them. They wear photography vests.

At some time, we are all one - it is a matter of degree.

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Apr 10, 2012 21:36:49   #
snowbear
 
Someone who magnifies photos so much that they can see individual pixels. They usually do it trying to judge the sharpness of a photo or lens. I compare it to the value of Pi; is 3.14 close enough, or do you want to go to 3.141592653589793238 . . .

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Apr 10, 2012 21:37:40   #
CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver
 
snowbear wrote:
Someone who magnifies photos so much that they can see individual pixels. They usually do it trying to judge the sharpness of a photo or lens. I compare it to the value of Pi; is 3.14 close enough, or do you want to go to 3.141592653589793238 . . .


OH Yeah - Snowbear is right on that count too!

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Apr 10, 2012 21:50:22   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
I believe the term "Chimping" applies as well.
Imagine a chimpanzee pointing at the display and going: "Oooo...ooo...oooo!"

Video here:
http://www.sportsshooter.com/special_feature/chimping/index.html

My daughter has Pi memorized out to about 50 places.
I can't even remember the last one I ate.

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Apr 10, 2012 22:05:41   #
Debby910 Loc: Floida
 
Thanks, I understand. I guess I am not only a newbie to DSLR photography, but I AM a chimper/peeper! Those videos were too funny!

GoofyNewfie wrote:
I believe the term "Chimping" applies as well.
Imagine a chimpanzee pointing at the display and going: "Oooo...ooo...oooo!"

Video here:
http://www.sportsshooter.com/special_feature/chimping/index.html

My daughter has Pi memorized out to about 50 places.
I can't even remember the last one I ate.

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Apr 11, 2012 12:54:52   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
I think everybody does it to a certain extent. What I hate is when standing next to another guy trying to get the same action shot (BIF) and I'll check the LCD for composition, exposure, focus, and I've blown it, and say outload "crap" and the guy next to you says "I got it, look, look, look . . . as he sticks his LCD in your face and just as he does his short lived LCD turns off so you can't even see the image. To make is worse, the sun is bright and no matter what angle he holds the camera you can't see the pic. It really doesn't matter, because I just want the shot so I say "nice!"

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggg!


GoofyNewfie wrote:
I believe the term "Chimping" applies as well.
Imagine a chimpanzee pointing at the display and going: "Oooo...ooo...oooo!"

Video here:
http://www.sportsshooter.com/special_feature/chimping/index.html

My daughter has Pi memorized out to about 50 places.
I can't even remember the last one I ate.

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Apr 11, 2012 15:31:33   #
snowbear
 
jeep_daddy wrote:
I think everybody does it to a certain extent. What I hate is when standing next to another guy trying to get the same action shot (BIF) and I'll check the LCD for composition, exposure, focus, and I've blown it, and say outload "crap" and the guy next to you says "I got it, look, look, look . . . as he sticks his LCD in your face and just as he does his short lived LCD turns off so you can't even see the image. To make is worse, the sun is bright and no matter what angle he holds the camera you can't see the pic. It really doesn't matter, because I just want the shot so I say "nice!"

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggg!
I think everybody does it to a certain extent. Wh... (show quote)


I was at a closeup workshop with my son a few years ago. We hadn't gotten his camera, yet, so I was shooting film whle he used my D40. After snapping one shot, a woman runs over to me yelling "Let me see, let me see!" When I turned the camera over, she got a real confused look on her face; I told her "I'll let you know in a few days."

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Apr 11, 2012 16:04:05   #
MWAC Loc: Somewhere East Of Crazy
 
CaptainC wrote:
Well, it is generally a perjorative term that refers to those who are more concerned with the minutiae of White Balance, PPI, crop sensors vs. Full Frame, RAW vs. jpg, sRGB vs. AdobeRGB 1998, and think using the japanese term for a soft background is cool (I can't bring myself to actually type it)....than they are with what the image actually looks like. They are to photography what a reformed smoker is to a cocktail party. :-)
The term, "whatever works," is a foreign language to them. They wear photography vests.

At some time, we are all one - it is a matter of degree.
Well, it is generally a perjorative term that refe... (show quote)


I use the term bokeh, I notice the older generation refuse to use it, why is that?

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Apr 11, 2012 16:37:16   #
Mudbuggus Loc: Acadiana
 
"I use the term bokeh, I notice the older generation refuse to use it, why is that?
"

The technical term is 'Out of focus'

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Apr 11, 2012 16:37:40   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
Bokeh refers to the quality of the out of focus areas, not just that it is out of focus. I've seen several posters refer to it in the general "out of focus" & incorrect manner. I don't use the term myself. Guess that makes me old.

I tried to avoid Ken Rockwell as a source, but he writes so people can understand. Here's Kenny:
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/bokeh.htm

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Apr 11, 2012 16:48:47   #
MWAC Loc: Somewhere East Of Crazy
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
Bokeh refers to the quality of the out of focus areas, not just that it is out of focus. I've seen several posters refer to it in the general "out of focus" & incorrect manner. I don't use the term myself. Guess that makes me old.

I tried to avoid Ken Rockwell as a source, but he writes so people can understand. Here's Kenny:
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/bokeh.htm


I know the meaning, just wondering why the hate toward a word that describes a quailty in an image. ???

*I try to avoid Ken Rockwell as a source as well, lol.

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Apr 11, 2012 16:51:56   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
MWAC wrote:
GoofyNewfie wrote:
Bokeh refers to the quality of the out of focus areas, not just that it is out of focus. I've seen several posters refer to it in the general "out of focus" & incorrect manner. I don't use the term myself. Guess that makes me old.

I tried to avoid Ken Rockwell as a source, but he writes so people can understand. Here's Kenny:
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/bokeh.htm


I know the meaning, just wondering why the hate toward a word that describes a quailty in an image. ???

*I try to avoid Ken Rockwell as a source as well, lol.
quote=GoofyNewfie Bokeh refers to the i quality ... (show quote)


My post about Bokeh wasn't directed at you, MWAC.
:lol:

I don't hate the term, just that I never heard of it until a few years ago and really don't find much need to use it.

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Apr 12, 2012 01:10:02   #
CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver
 
MWAC wrote:
CaptainC wrote:
Well, it is generally a perjorative term that refers to those who are more concerned with the minutiae of White Balance, PPI, crop sensors vs. Full Frame, RAW vs. jpg, sRGB vs. AdobeRGB 1998, and think using the japanese term for a soft background is cool (I can't bring myself to actually type it)....than they are with what the image actually looks like. They are to photography what a reformed smoker is to a cocktail party. :-)
The term, "whatever works," is a foreign language to them. They wear photography vests.

At some time, we are all one - it is a matter of degree.
Well, it is generally a perjorative term that refe... (show quote)


I use the term bokeh, I notice the older generation refuse to use it, why is that?
quote=CaptainC Well, it is generally a perjorativ... (show quote)


Well, I have been around (on and off) photography since the mid-sixties. Never heard the term until a few years ago. Its use seem to be from newcomers who use it to sound like they are knowledgeable. As Joe McNally said, (and I paraphrase here) If he were to use the term he would throw up in his mouth. I have never heard a professional use the term without rolling the eyes and laughing.

I much prefer, "The out of focus area looks nice."

Well...you asked. ;-)

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Apr 12, 2012 01:23:37   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
CaptainC wrote:
Well, it is generally a perjorative term that refers to those who are more concerned with the minutiae of White Balance, PPI, crop sensors vs. Full Frame, RAW vs. jpg, sRGB vs. AdobeRGB 1998, and think using the japanese term for a soft background is cool (I can't bring myself to actually type it)....than they are with what the image actually looks like. They are to photography what a reformed smoker is to a cocktail party. :-)
The term, "whatever works," is a foreign language to them. They wear photography vests.

At some time, we are all one - it is a matter of degree.
Well, it is generally a perjorative term that refe... (show quote)


Ah, go ahead. Bokeh

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