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Apr 9, 2012 10:41:33   #
jcsnell Loc: SW Ohio
 
I am planning a trip to Arches National Park in Utah and have some question about WB. I usually us auto White balance and have been satisfied with that but I have noticed that if I change to Sunny,Shade or cloudy it seems to get more color saturation. Any suggestions?

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Apr 9, 2012 12:07:11   #
cecilia delacroix Loc: near Seattle
 
Depending on what kind of camera you have, some models with an LCD screen on the back allow you to preview the various white balance choices by clicking through them, before you take the photo. Check your camera's manual.

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Apr 9, 2012 12:39:58   #
ziggykor Loc: East Texas
 
Bryan Peterson, the author of "Understanding Exposure" almost always uses the Cloudy WB setting because it tends to render a warmer image.

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Apr 10, 2012 09:36:12   #
CanonShot Loc: Lancaster County, PA
 
ziggykor wrote:
Bryan Peterson, the author of "Understanding Exposure" almost always uses the Cloudy WB setting because it tends to render a warmer image.


Z-kor, thinking of the Peterson philosophy of using maining the Cloudy WB and your personal use of it, can you offer a situation where Cloudy WB--ignore the obvious-- would work and a situation where you would not think to use Cloudy WB? Maybe a crazy question, but your answer will speak to the possibilities. Thanks.

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Apr 10, 2012 09:41:45   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
On a trip like that I'd shoot the key images in RAW also so I can fiddle with it later.

If shooting jpeg you may want to set your picture control to "Vivid" (Nikon). It will increase the saturation.

If you can do it I highly recommend Bryce Canyon as well.

jcsnell wrote:
I am planning a trip to Arches National Park in Utah and have some question about WB. I usually us auto White balance and have been satisfied with that but I have noticed that if I change to Sunny,Shade or cloudy it seems to get more color saturation. Any suggestions?

Bryce Canyon Example
Bryce Canyon Example...

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Apr 10, 2012 09:43:48   #
CanonShot Loc: Lancaster County, PA
 
Did you attempt any HDR images at Bryce?

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Apr 10, 2012 10:06:09   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
No, that was taken before I had my DSLR and before I knew what HDR was.

I will when I go back! And I will go back.


CanonShot wrote:
Did you attempt any HDR images at Bryce?

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Apr 10, 2012 10:33:26   #
docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado
 
jcsnell wrote:
I am planning a trip to Arches National Park in Utah and have some question about WB. I usually us auto White balance and have been satisfied with that but I have noticed that if I change to Sunny,Shade or cloudy it seems to get more color saturation. Any suggestions?


Ahhh Moab. Bright blue skies, strong, harsh sun throughout the day and red and white rocks.........Put the WB on cloudy and your red rocks will appear oranger and your white rocks will too.....hard to say what that does to the sky if any sky in the pics.......and its not more color saturation it just alters the color balance a bit - (cow 1 is not cow 2).

Play with WB for yourself - heck throw out some Tungsten balanced shots just for the heck of it.....were it me....i'd stick to auto wb and spend my time experiencing the place.

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Apr 10, 2012 10:41:54   #
ziggykor Loc: East Texas
 
Cloudy WB tends to render a warmer image than using Auto or daylight. I've used it at times and found that it works, although I don't use it exclusively. My comment was not to be construed as a recommendation, strictly information. The bottom line is that you have to choose what's best for what you wish to say.

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Apr 10, 2012 12:12:46   #
CocoaRoger Loc: Cocoa Florida
 
I like to use cloudy because as it has been pointed out, it lends a warmer appeal. However, beyond that I would most definitely shoot in RAW so that I would have the option to alter the WB later.

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Apr 10, 2012 12:19:38   #
Donwitz Loc: Virginia Beach, VA
 
I also endorse cloudy white balance for a warmer image. Then you often have one less adjustment to make to the RAW file. This is especially true for outdoor shots taken during the middle of the day. Cloudy WB makes the light look more like sunset or sunrise...

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Apr 10, 2012 14:11:27   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
Sorry, but in my opinion this Bryce image is over saturated.

Shoot in RAW and adjust in Camera RAW later. Images shot under the same lighting conditions can be batched processed after you finish processing the first image.

MtnMan wrote:
On a trip like that I'd shoot the key images in RAW also so I can fiddle with it later.

If shooting jpeg you may want to set your picture control to "Vivid" (Nikon). It will increase the saturation.

If you can do it I highly recommend Bryce Canyon as well.

jcsnell wrote:
I am planning a trip to Arches National Park in Utah and have some question about WB. I usually us auto White balance and have been satisfied with that but I have noticed that if I change to Sunny,Shade or cloudy it seems to get more color saturation. Any suggestions?
On a trip like that I'd shoot the key images in RA... (show quote)

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Apr 10, 2012 14:55:51   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
BTW a polarizing filter will make the blue sky there super blue for you. Don't forget one!

docrob wrote:
jcsnell wrote:
I am planning a trip to Arches National Park in Utah and have some question about WB. I usually us auto White balance and have been satisfied with that but I have noticed that if I change to Sunny,Shade or cloudy it seems to get more color saturation. Any suggestions?


Ahhh Moab. Bright blue skies, strong, harsh sun throughout the day and red and white rocks.........Put the WB on cloudy and your red rocks will appear oranger and your white rocks will too.....hard to say what that does to the sky if any sky in the pics.......and its not more color saturation it just alters the color balance a bit - (cow 1 is not cow 2).

Play with WB for yourself - heck throw out some Tungsten balanced shots just for the heck of it.....were it me....i'd stick to auto wb and spend my time experiencing the place.
quote=jcsnell I am planning a trip to Arches Nati... (show quote)

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Apr 10, 2012 14:57:28   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
Nothing to be sorry about...I agree it is saturated. It doesn't look as saturated on my screen with Elements as it does on UHH though. It got that way with post processing, though...not white balance. I may not even had control over white balance on the camera I shot it with. I know for sure I didn't know what it was.

However if you haven't been there in the evenings you may not understand. The real colors are mind-blowing.

Anyhow I like them bright.

jeep_daddy wrote:
Sorry, but in my opinion this Bryce image is over saturated.

Shoot in RAW and adjust in Camera RAW later. Images shot under the same lighting conditions can be batched processed after you finish processing the first image.

MtnMan wrote:
On a trip like that I'd shoot the key images in RAW also so I can fiddle with it later.

If shooting jpeg you may want to set your picture control to "Vivid" (Nikon). It will increase the saturation.

If you can do it I highly recommend Bryce Canyon as well.

jcsnell wrote:
I am planning a trip to Arches National Park in Utah and have some question about WB. I usually us auto White balance and have been satisfied with that but I have noticed that if I change to Sunny,Shade or cloudy it seems to get more color saturation. Any suggestions?
On a trip like that I'd shoot the key images in RA... (show quote)
Sorry, but in my opinion this Bryce image is over ... (show quote)

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