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Oct 9, 2015 15:01:37   #
jim hill Loc: Springfield, IL
 
I love putting my people into photos other than where they were shot.

However, not too certain about this one. If you have time please tell me which you would go with if you were me. No. 1, No. 2, neither.

1. Central Park At Night, No model
1. Central Park At Night, No model...
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2. Central Park At Night with Model
2. Central Park At Night with Model...
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Oct 9, 2015 15:18:36   #
oldtigger Loc: Roanoke Virginia-USA
 
jim hill wrote:
I love putting my people into photos other than where they were shot....


ditch the broad

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Oct 9, 2015 15:28:58   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
For me, it's a surreal, magical kind of image, so the model fits right in. And I love the action of her shielding her eyes from the bright light. Genius, Jim!

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Oct 9, 2015 15:43:14   #
jim hill Loc: Springfield, IL
 
oldtigger wrote:
ditch the broad


I could but...Oh, you mean your vote is for the one without the girl.

Thanks for the choice and duly noted.

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Oct 9, 2015 15:54:22   #
jim hill Loc: Springfield, IL
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
For me, it's a surreal, magical kind of image, so the model fits right in. And I love the action of her shielding her eyes from the bright light. Genius, Jim!


Thanks for your vote Linda. And thank you for the kind review of the photograph. It was a pleasure to work at it.

I wasn't certain whether it would distract from the scene itself. As long as people think it fits it will have been worth the effort. I'm too close to it at the moment to make an intelligent choice based in aesthetics. It was the thought of three empty concrete benches that led to wondering if a figure could believably be added.

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Oct 9, 2015 18:31:36   #
donolea Loc: Nashville, TN
 
I always enjoy putting people into different shots. I like the shot and I really like the hands over the face. My only critique is I think the model is a bit too small in proportion to the larger image. Size her up just a bit and I think it would be great. She's not a distraction at all, just her smallish size I find a bit distracting. That's just me, though. ;-)

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Oct 9, 2015 22:15:21   #
Frank2013 Loc: San Antonio, TX. & Milwaukee, WI.
 
jim hill wrote:
I love putting my people into photos other than where they were shot.

However, not too certain about this one. If you have time please tell me which you would go with if you were me. No. 1, No. 2, neither.


How about number 3 Mr. Hill. The upper shadow behind the light pole already looks like a grand piano with the lid down, so shove it a bit to the right and slide her right in there playing it.

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Oct 10, 2015 02:35:32   #
jim hill Loc: Springfield, IL
 
donolea wrote:
I always enjoy putting people into different shots. I like the shot and I really like the hands over the face. My only critique is I think the model is a bit too small in proportion to the larger image. Size her up just a bit and I think it would be great. She's not a distraction at all, just her smallish size I find a bit distracting. That's just me, though. ;-)


Thanks for the suggestion. I tried her larger but her lower legs wouldn't let me - even after shortening them the distance to the bottom of the bench was too short. I tried a little more height added to the torso and head but she really looked out of proportion when I did that.

I know what you mean and had there been more of an angle between torso and upper legs it would have been easier to make her larger.

I take it you vote for #2. Thanks for looking and if you have anything further I ain't goin' nowhere 'cept back to bed.

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Oct 10, 2015 02:42:03   #
jim hill Loc: Springfield, IL
 
Frank2013 wrote:
How about number 3 Mr. Hill. The upper shadow behind the light pole already looks like a grand piano with the lid down, so shove it a bit to the right and slide her right in there playing it.


Boy oh boy, Frank. You certainly have an active imagination. Feel free to do it if you wish.

Thanks for your suggestion. Duly noted and awaiting your application.

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Oct 10, 2015 08:04:01   #
Frank2013 Loc: San Antonio, TX. & Milwaukee, WI.
 
jim hill wrote:
Boy oh boy, Frank. You certainly have an active imagination. Feel free to do it if you wish.

Thanks for your suggestion. Duly noted and awaiting your application.


So sorry Mr. Hill, I haven't the skills...........maybe Don could help us here.

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Oct 10, 2015 10:56:37   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 
Of the two, I choose the first. The lady is so small that I didn't even see her at first. That makes her a distraction for me.

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Oct 10, 2015 11:30:40   #
jim hill Loc: Springfield, IL
 
jaymatt wrote:
Of the two, I choose the first. The lady is so small that I didn't even see her at first. That makes her a distraction for me.


Thanks for your vote. And I appreciate your comment as to why. Another Hogger commented on the smallness of the figure so it's probably back to the drawing board if I want something in the photograph besides the one I chose.

I do have the same location in "daylight" with some of my nudes but can't show them here. They aren't much larger but no one misses them on first glance.

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Oct 10, 2015 12:04:30   #
donolea Loc: Nashville, TN
 
jim hill wrote:
Thanks for your vote. And I appreciate your comment as to why. Another Hogger commented on the smallness of the figure so it's probably back to the drawing board if I want something in the photograph besides the one I chose.

I do have the same location in "daylight" with some of my nudes but can't show them here. They aren't much larger but no one misses them on first glance.


No, not back to the drawing board, unless you haven't saved the image as a .psd file with the original layers. If you have the woman saved separately, just grab your transform tool (command or control T) then grab a corner node holding down your shift + alt or option (for Mac users) and hold, then drag. Your woman will enlarge proportionately, then just eyeball it in comparison to the bush or the bench.

And my apologies if you already know this.

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Oct 10, 2015 12:46:26   #
jim hill Loc: Springfield, IL
 
donolea wrote:
No, not back to the drawing board, unless you haven't saved the image as a .psd file with the original layers. If you have the woman saved separately, just grab your transform tool (command or control T) then grab a corner node holding down your shift + alt or option (for Mac users) and hold, then drag. Your woman will enlarge proportionately, then just eyeball it in comparison to the bush or the bench.

And my apologies if you already know this.


I am a Serif PhotoPlus user since version x4 came out and I use only those tools which keep things simple. I don't work with layers.

The model is in my files and cut out was used to take out the extraneous areas surrounding her. A tedious process at best but it works for me. I have a tool that will change size both locally (like the legs in this case) and/or over all. Another tool can place the image in any part of the photograph. I decided on this size for the reasons mentioned earlier.

I will try later to insert a foreground model with back in full shadow and placed in the foreground of the light area on the grass. Not certain that it will work as well as this one but I won't know until I try.

Thanks for your interest in helping this old fart with a problem. It is much appreciated.

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Oct 10, 2015 13:05:25   #
donolea Loc: Nashville, TN
 
Sorry Jim for the PS assumption, I'm not familiar with Serif PhotoPlus. Masking images IS a bit tedious. I'm not a fan of it while I'm doing it, but I always enjoy what I can do creatively afterwards. Check Youtube for tutorials regarding what you are trying to accomplish making a note of your software. I'm sure you'll find loads of great tips.

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