Note to self; Always carry a weather radio with me in the monsoon season.
Sep 16, 2015 19:45:42 #
I don't know how many have seen or heard this story, but this is one of the dangers of the slot canyons in Northern Arizona. It should be remembered by all that summer rains can cause flash flooding and we need to be aware of the dangers.
http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/30041214/zion-national-park-floods-trapped-7-people-in-narrow-canyon
http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/30041214/zion-national-park-floods-trapped-7-people-in-narrow-canyon
Sep 16, 2015 19:59:49 #
Every year. You can count on it that is why you need research and guided direction. Nature is very unforgiving.
J. R.
J. R.
Sep 16, 2015 20:02:08 #
Gifted One wrote:
Every year. You can count on it that is why you need research and guided direction. Nature is very unforgiving.
J. R.
J. R.
The problem here was all the people were in their 40's & 50's and had a permit to be in the slot canyons, but had no means of being warned about the rains up by Arizona City, AZ & Hildale, Ut.
Sep 16, 2015 20:29:33 #
jdubu
Loc: San Jose, CA
jethro779 wrote:
The problem here was all the people were in their 40's & 50's and had a permit to be in the slot canyons, but had no means of being warned about the rains up by Arizona City, AZ & Hildale, Ut.
From my reading, they were issued the permits in the early morning hours and warned of the high possibility of flash floods. Once in the canyon, there was no way to tell them the closing of the canyon at 2 pm.
The real problem is that people don't understand that events happening in supposedly unrelated areas CAN have consequences where you are located. The past few years' catastrophic tsunamis are evidence to the scope of our complacency.
I think carrying a weather/emergency band radio with you can give you that warning regardless of season.
Sep 16, 2015 20:35:49 #
From the few pictures it looks like 5 - 10 steps either way gets you out of danger.
Sep 16, 2015 20:44:25 #
It is very deceiving. I have been high on an overlook that appeared safe and the after I kept backing up as a added measure of caution saw the whole side of the hill eroded in seconds. You just can move quick enough at times.
J. R.
J. R.
John_F wrote:
From the few pictures it looks like 5 - 10 steps either way gets you out of danger.
Sep 16, 2015 21:28:03 #
You can't get out of the slots quickly and your radio might not work real well. You should not be in them if there is ANY chance of rain and that includes up on the plateau 50 miles away from you.
Sep 17, 2015 08:36:46 #
jethro779 wrote:
I don't know how many have seen or heard this story, but this is one of the dangers of the slot canyons in Northern Arizona.
It's amazing how that happens, and people from out of the area don't think it can happen. I've seen it on TV, and it's scary.
Sep 17, 2015 11:27:26 #
jerryc41 wrote:
It's amazing how that happens, and people from out of the area don't think it can happen. I've seen it on TV, and it's scary.
You couldn't pay me to go in the slot canyons when there's any significant chance of rain in their catchment areas. That said, I hope to get a chance to see and photograph them at some point.
Sep 17, 2015 12:45:52 #
Big Bill
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
People who aren't from there have no idea of the dangers. A weather radio won't help, unless you know that rain upstream will get to where you are. Probably no radio reception, either, down in the cuts.
I'm in Phoenix, and will not go into any washes in monsoon season.
I'm in Phoenix, and will not go into any washes in monsoon season.
Sep 17, 2015 13:01:09 #
Nature can be very unforgiving no matter where in the planet, Pole to pole or deep Amazon to all types of desert and there are many.
In my area it goes from high mountain desert to deep gorges to high mountains of the Rockies Tetons. Very alluring and I have gotten into trouble also. None that has been fatal to me but have seen the results first hand.
J. R.
In my area it goes from high mountain desert to deep gorges to high mountains of the Rockies Tetons. Very alluring and I have gotten into trouble also. None that has been fatal to me but have seen the results first hand.
J. R.
Sep 17, 2015 16:11:58 #
rocketride wrote:
You couldn't pay me to go in the slot canyons when there's any significant chance of rain in their catchment areas. That said, I hope to get a chance to see and photograph them at some point.
I saw an episode with Bear Grylls about a year ago, and it began to rain while he was in the jungle. All of a sudden, a small stream became a raging torrent.
Sep 18, 2015 00:01:08 #
There were eighteen people killed in southern Utah including (7) hikers at Zion National Park, and Hildale the town of Poligamists where Warren Jeffs is from.
Sep 18, 2015 08:32:59 #
Hi Bill, when is monsoon season typically?
Chris
Chris
Big Bill wrote:
People who aren't from there have no idea of the dangers. A weather radio won't help, unless you know that rain upstream will get to where you are. Probably no radio reception, either, down in the cuts.
I'm in Phoenix, and will not go into any washes in monsoon season.
I'm in Phoenix, and will not go into any washes in monsoon season.
Sep 18, 2015 09:57:09 #
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Monsoon
http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/28968888/monsoon-2015-forecast
The monsoon season begins on June 15 and ends on September 30, but the storms peak between mid-July and mid-August. On average, about half of Arizona receives about half of its annual rainfall during the monsoon. Arizona receives a statewide average of only 12.5 inches of rain per year.
The real problem is that it sometimes does not know start/stop date.
J. R.
http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/28968888/monsoon-2015-forecast
The monsoon season begins on June 15 and ends on September 30, but the storms peak between mid-July and mid-August. On average, about half of Arizona receives about half of its annual rainfall during the monsoon. Arizona receives a statewide average of only 12.5 inches of rain per year.
The real problem is that it sometimes does not know start/stop date.
J. R.
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