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Sep 9, 2015 13:03:13   #
kavner58 Loc: Portland, Oregon
 
mrjcall wrote:
Nikon has been curiously quiet while Canon has been curiously active... Here's another announcement!

Here’s what the company had to say on the new 5D series EOS camera with 120MP sensor:

“Featuring a resolution of approximately 120 effective megapixels, the SLR camera now being developed will incorporate a Canon-developed high-pixel-density CMOS sensor within the current EOS-series platform, which will realize compatibility with the Company’s diverse interchangeable EF lens lineup. The high-resolution images that the camera will be capable of producing will recreate the three-dimensional texture, feel and presence of subjects, making them appear as if they are really before one’s eyes. The camera will facilitate a level of resolution that is more than sufficient for enlarged poster-sized printout while also enabling images to be cropped and trimmed without sacrificing image resolution and clarity.”
Nikon has been curiously quiet while Canon has bee... (show quote)


I do like companies that either announce a camera model to start shipping (1) Now, (2) In a 1-2 months.
When a company say they are working on something which is much more aggressive in sensor technology than anyone can offer - I am sceptical. It reminds me announcements of new discoveries in medicine that will be out as drugs, cures, etc. in years to come. Only a small (smaller) fraction of these PR - marketing notes will be products in years to come.
Are they under some pressure with all these?

-AK

-AK

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Sep 9, 2015 13:14:16   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
kavner58 wrote:
I do like companies that either announce a camera model to start shipping (1) Now, (2) In a 1-2 months.
When a company say they are working on something which is much more aggressive in sensor technology than anyone can offer - I am sceptical. It reminds me announcements of new discoveries in medicine that will be out as drugs, cures, etc. in years to come. Only a small (smaller) fraction of these PR - marketing notes will be products in years to come.
Are they under some pressure with all these?

-AK

-AK
I do like companies that either announce a camera ... (show quote)


Well, if you read this forum Canon is regularly getting flak for its sensors, so sure they are under some pressure. One way of dealing with that is to make forward looking technology development announcements. It is standard practice in the tech industry, where Apple is possibly the biggest exception to that practice.

However, a well established company such as Canon also understands that pre-announcing things is a risky business, so it is normally done with appropriate caution, and and even more so with Japanese companies than US ones.

Drug development is a very different kind of thing, where it has to be tested and found effective on a diverse population of subjects. Semi-conductor development has its issues, but it is a much more controllable process.

So, we'll see what we see.

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Sep 9, 2015 14:48:22   #
n3eg Loc: West coast USA
 
mrjcall wrote:
Here’s what the company had to say on the new 5D series EOS camera with 120MP sensor:

“Featuring a resolution of approximately 120 effective megapixels, the SLR camera now being developed will incorporate a Canon-developed high-pixel-density CMOS sensor within the current EOS-series platform, which will realize compatibility with the Company’s diverse interchangeable EF lens lineup. The high-resolution images that the camera will be capable of producing will recreate the three-dimensional texture, feel and presence of subjects, making them appear as if they are really before one’s eyes. The camera will facilitate a level of resolution that is more than sufficient for enlarged poster-sized printout while also enabling images to be cropped and trimmed without sacrificing image resolution and clarity
Here’s what the company had to say on the new 5D s... (show quote)

Do they also have 50x digital zoom?
:lol:

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Sep 9, 2015 15:24:20   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
rook2c4 wrote:
I wouldn't know what to do with all those pixels.


The exact same thing you do now, only better!!!!!!! LoL
SS

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Sep 9, 2015 15:28:27   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
They are working on them now, only to be released after Sony and Nikon release theirs about 2 years prior to Canon.

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Sep 9, 2015 17:14:35   #
CLF Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Technology does change. When IBM brought out the PC they were sure along with Gates that DOS would load with 32k of memory. Well it would not, it took 64k. Back in the early 90s when the best sellers had 2mg of memory the talk was no one will ever need any more. Now I have 8GB of memory and a 1T hard file plus a 1T remote HF for backup.

Now we know we will never need all that much storage or RAM.

Greg

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Sep 9, 2015 17:34:08   #
Photocraig
 
Db7423 wrote:
Indeed. I think 24mp on a full frame sensor is about right and anything more is overkill. ;)


I think I remember the same being said about 8MP, or was it 12Mp or........................... Moore;'s Law that has governed microelectronics for decades states that every (and this number seems to reduce regularly) 18 months performance will double and price will be cut in half. That's a square function. When I left the industry we were screaming onto 12 months with very powerful product.

Expect to see the same in sensor performance, including MP density, Dynamic Response, speed and more. The trick, as it was in computers, is to find applications that can use the new speed and lower cost to your best advantage. Maybe a dual sensor stereo video camera for real 3D. In your phone or watch or eyeglasses!

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Sep 9, 2015 17:43:06   #
CLF Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
[quote
Expect to see the same in sensor performance, including MP density, Dynamic Response, speed and more. The trick, as it was in computers, is to find applications that can use the new speed and lower cost to your best advantage. Maybe a dual sensor stereo video camera for real 3D. In your phone or watch or eyeglasses![/quote]

Craig, my experience so far has been that the software was out there just was held back by having a PC with enough speed and core to use it.

Greg

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Sep 9, 2015 18:13:07   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
Cdouthitt wrote:
They are working on them now, only to be released after Sony and Nikon release theirs about 2 years prior to Canon.


Are you putting money on that?

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Sep 9, 2015 19:41:57   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
Peterff wrote:
Are you putting money on that?


Since when has canon lately been the first at anything. Sounds like a safe bet to me.

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Sep 9, 2015 19:52:52   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
Cdouthitt wrote:
Since when has canon lately been the first at anything. Sounds like a safe bet to me.


So place the bet!

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Sep 9, 2015 22:16:09   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
Peterff wrote:
So place the bet!


So what are we betting that canon does exactly...

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Sep 9, 2015 22:20:00   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
Cdouthitt wrote:
So what are we betting that canon does exactly...


That was stated earlier in the thread by the OP. And I wasn't saying we, I was asking you to put some substance behind your opinions....

You, against the house on the OP's comment.

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Sep 10, 2015 03:44:26   #
Photocraig
 
CLF wrote:
Craig, my experience so far has been that the software was out there just was held back by having a PC with enough speed and core to use it.

Greg


Don't confuse software with the actual application of the Hardware and Software to solve a real world problem worth spending the money for it. By application I mean functional usage as opposed to the current usage of the term "App." When the performance doubled and the prices dropped the opportunities to solve problems afford-ably grew tremendously whether it was a mainframe, mini, high performance Server, Workstation or a PC..

Many times it was the case of the software pushing the hardware for more power to do the job. Whether it was simulating the Atmosphere, sonar geological exploration, mechanical CAD or the HOG of all HOGS relational databases and Binary Large Objects.

Now that the platform sits in your hand instead of a 2 acre building, the parameters change but the process doesn't. And neither does Moore's Law.

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Sep 10, 2015 05:39:47   #
CLF Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Photocraig wrote:
Don't confuse software with the actual application of the Hardware and Software to solve a real world problem worth spending the money for it. By application I mean functional usage as opposed to the current usage of the term "App." When the performance doubled and the prices dropped the opportunities to solve problems afford-ably grew tremendously whether it was a mainframe, mini, high performance Server, Workstation or a PC..

Many times it was the case of the software pushing the hardware for more power to do the job. Whether it was simulating the Atmosphere, sonar geological exploration, mechanical CAD or the HOG of all HOGS relational databases and Binary Large Objects.

Now that the platform sits in your hand instead of a 2 acre building, the parameters change but the process doesn't. And neither does Moore's Law.
Don't confuse software with the actual application... (show quote)


Photocraig, Your second paragraph is exactly what I attempted to say, you said it a whole lot better. I am not referring to games, etc that also drive faster and more.

Greg

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