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Sep 5, 2015 09:16:48   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-e******n/hillary-clinton-sorry-email-controversy-n421851

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Sep 5, 2015 09:37:54   #
SBW
 
idaholover wrote:
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-e******n/hillary-clinton-sorry-email-controversy-n421851


Easy to sell, she just took a lesson from the community organizer. After all, he sold his obamacare by lying to the American people. Worked for him, should work for her.

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Sep 5, 2015 09:45:07   #
sb Loc: Florida's East Coast
 
I have to say I am a little tired of her "explanations" about the server. Saying she was too busy to even think about it is pretty disingenuous (meaning she really must think we are stupid). Most of us can figure out that the simplest thing to do by far would have been to use the existing email infrastructure of the State Department. To create and install your own private email server takes quite a bit of thought and effort.

She should just admit that she thought it might be a way of avoiding congressional oversight, and she was wrong and misguided. It's what we all know to be the t***h. If she just admitted it - and it is unclear that she did anything illegal - the issue would die down. Her constant defensiveness just makes her look more guilty every day.

And this observation is coming from a liberal democrat who will not be v****g for Hillary. I v**e for people I trust. Candidates I would TRUST would include Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden. The list would also include Marco Rubio and possibly Jeb. It used to include Chris Christy, but the bridgegate thing destroyed the trust that most people had in him. I don't trust people who are narcissists (Hillary and the Donald) or people who are so stuck on a particular dogma that they cannot be objective (Huckabee and others). I v**ed for John McCain in the past because I felt he was trustworthy, rational, and had the best interest of Americans in his heart.

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Sep 5, 2015 09:45:44   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
SBW wrote:
Easy to sell, she just took a lesson from the community organizer. After all, he sold his obamacare by lying to the American people. Worked for him, should work for her.


The American people got exactly what they asked for because they fell for the "free s__t" "v**e for me" ploy. We can h**e Obama's guts all we want but the "community organizer" won! Not fair and square but they don't care about that part.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg98BvqUvCc



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Sep 5, 2015 09:46:31   #
sb Loc: Florida's East Coast
 
SBW wrote:
Easy to sell, she just took a lesson from the community organizer. After all, he sold his obamacare by lying to the American people. Worked for him, should work for her.


If ObamaCare has turned out to be a bad thing the people would rise up against it. More people than ever before are insured, and you don't hear a lot of complaints, so it must not be all that bad.

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Sep 5, 2015 09:48:39   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
sb wrote:
I have to say I am a little tired of her "explanations" about the server. Saying she was too busy to even think about it is pretty disingenuous (meaning she really must think we are stupid). Most of us can figure out that the simplest thing to do by far would have been to use the existing email infrastructure of the State Department. To create and install your own private email server takes quite a bit of thought and effort.

She should just admit that she thought it might be a way of avoiding congressional oversight, and she was wrong and misguided. It's what we all know to be the t***h. If she just admitted it - and it is unclear that she did anything illegal - the issue would die down. Her constant defensiveness just makes her look more guilty every day.

And this observation is coming from a liberal democrat who will not be v****g for Hillary. I v**e for people I trust. Candidates I would TRUST would include Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden. The list would also include Marco Rubio and possibly Jeb. It used to include Chris Christy, but the bridgegate thing destroyed the trust that most people had in him. I don't trust people who are narcissists (Hillary and the Donald) or people who are so stuck on a particular dogma that they cannot be objective (Huckabee and others). I v**ed for John McCain in the past because I felt he was trustworthy, rational, and had the best interest of Americans in his heart.
I have to say I am a little tired of her "ex... (show quote)


No offense, and I can respect that, but, you are a liberal dinosaur. But then I am a conservative dinosaur. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Sep 5, 2015 09:50:57   #
Leon S Loc: Minnesota
 
Having raised five kids and managing a few large companies, I can tell when someone is not only avoiding a question but also in the process, blowing smoke up my azz. She has the same style as Slick Willy. Its not that I am anti democrat, I might v**e for Joe Biden, I might v**e for a republican. I just think that when the time comes we need to v**e for someone we can trust and believe.

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Sep 5, 2015 09:51:11   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
sb wrote:
If ObamaCare has turned out to be a bad thing the people would rise up against it. More people than ever before are insured, and you don't hear a lot of complaints, so it must not be all that bad.


Depends on who you listen to! My wife has a ton of complaints that were all forecast to happen.

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Sep 5, 2015 09:51:12   #
sb Loc: Florida's East Coast
 
idaholover wrote:
The American people got exactly what they asked for because they fell for the "free s__t" "v**e for me" ploy. We can h**e Obama's guts all we want but the "community organizer" won! Not fair and square but they don't care about that part.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg98BvqUvCc


I would call being elected by a majority of Americans TWICE to be "fair and square", even though w***e s*********ts in Idaho must really, really h**e the thought of having a black man who is far more intelligent than they are as president. All these complaints about "ruining America", and yet many of the complaints are about things that were started by GWB (such as the Iran negotiations). And we do have a system of checks and balances, and so Obama cannot do very much without the approval of congress or the threat of congress overriding him.

Were you as worried when a white president started taking away our constitutional rights and violating established international law? Holding citizens in jail without criminal charges, kidnapping and torturing people, invading nations who were no threat to us, etc? No, I didn't think so.

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Sep 5, 2015 10:06:23   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
sb wrote:
I would call being elected by a majority of Americans TWICE to be "fair and square", even though w***e s*********ts in Idaho must really, really h**e the thought of having a black man who is far more intelligent than they are as president. All these complaints about "ruining America", and yet many of the complaints are about things that were started by GWB (such as the Iran negotiations). And we do have a system of checks and balances, and so Obama cannot do very much without the approval of congress or the threat of congress overriding him.

Were you as worried when a white president started taking away our constitutional rights and violating established international law? Holding citizens in jail without criminal charges, kidnapping and torturing people, invading nations who were no threat to us, etc? No, I didn't think so.
I would call being elected by a majority of Americ... (show quote)


Sorry, you aren't a dinosaur, you are a typical liberal arrogant prick who couldn't resist a personal attack.

"And we do have a system of checks"
Just go to the grocery store on the first of the month!

You just lost on three counts, personal attack, a f**r e******n based on lies is not fair, and you played the race card. You almost had me for a moment!

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Sep 5, 2015 10:10:12   #
Leon S Loc: Minnesota
 
[quote=sb]I, and so Obama cannot do very much without the approval of congress or the threat of congress overriding him.

You are so wrong. The President can at any time launch nukes at the drop of the hat, start a war without congressional approval (Kennedy vs Cuba-Russia) send troops into foreign countries (Granada, Panama) and more we don't even know about. It is bad enough serving in the military during times like those, but it is worse when your kids are in the same situation. If you have to put your life in the hands of the Commander and Chief, knowing your doing so because you trust that person is important. By the time congress can over ride him, your kids can be dead.

Were you as worried when a white president started taking away our constitutional rights and violating established international law?

Its got nothing to do with white, black. yellow, or pink.

Think it over...

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Sep 5, 2015 10:14:06   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
[quote=Leon S]
sb wrote:
I, and so Obama cannot do very much without the approval of congress or the threat of congress overriding him.

You are so wrong. The President can at any time launch nukes at the drop of the hat, start a war without congressional approval (Kennedy vs Cuba-Russia) send troops into foreign countries (Granada, Panama) and more we don't even know about. It is bad enough serving in the military during times like those, but it is worse when your kids are in the same situation. If you have to put your life in the hands of the Commander and Chief, knowing your doing so because you trust that person is important. By the time congress can over ride him, your kids can be dead.

Were you as worried when a white president started taking away our constitutional rights and violating established international law?

Its got nothing to do with white, black. yellow, or pink.

Think it over...
I, and so Obama cannot do very much without the ap... (show quote)


Typical liberal r****t trying to hide it by projection. Then the chicks**t runs off!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

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Sep 5, 2015 10:44:15   #
Checkmate Loc: Southern California
 
sb wrote:
I would call being elected by a majority of Americans TWICE to be "fair and square", even though w***e s*********ts in Idaho must really, really h**e the thought of having a black man who is far more intelligent than they are as president. All these complaints about "ruining America", and yet many of the complaints are about things that were started by GWB (such as the Iran negotiations). And we do have a system of checks and balances, and so Obama cannot do very much without the approval of congress or the threat of congress overriding him.

Were you as worried when a white president started taking away our constitutional rights and violating established international law? Holding citizens in jail without criminal charges, kidnapping and torturing people, invading nations who were no threat to us, etc? No, I didn't think so.
I would call being elected by a majority of Americ... (show quote)

You just blew any credibility I might thought you had in your previous post. Obama has proven that liberal Democraps have no concern for working people by handling out freebies to those who are free loaders. Obama has done more damage to America than all the terrorists in the world combined. Do you really feel sorry for the terrorists in Gitmo? Torture my ass. They should have been tried within a week and a trial no longer than 3 days. If found guilty, executed immediately. You seem to have a problem with those 'poor' little terrorists being held in prison.

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Sep 5, 2015 10:47:00   #
RichieC Loc: Adirondacks
 
[quote=Leon S]
sb wrote:
I, and so Obama cannot do very much without the approval of congress or the threat of congress overriding him.

You are so wrong. The President can at any time launch nukes at the drop of the hat, start a war without congressional approval (Kennedy vs Cuba-Russia) send troops into foreign countries (Granada, Panama) and more we don't even know about. It is bad enough serving in the military during times like those, but it is worse when your kids are in the same situation. If you have to put your life in the hands of the Commander and Chief, knowing your doing so because you trust that person is important. By the time congress can over ride him, your kids can be dead.

Were you as worried when a white president started taking away our constitutional rights and violating established international law?

Its got nothing to do with white, black. yellow, or pink.

Think it over...
I, and so Obama cannot do very much without the ap... (show quote)


President can NOT just launch nukes at the drop of a hat, it takes a considerable amount of agreement. at every step. ANy person in the chain who disagrees can stop it at the drop of a hat. Right down to the launch operators who must agree upon every step and do it in tandem. Know that a lot of Generals in key positions have been dismissed at an alarming rate with the common thread that they opposed the current presidents actions, and that troops have been tested on wether they would fire on American citizens, and death sentences have been ordered on American Citizens without due course of law.

Yes I for one, was JUST as worried about presidents eroding our rights as recognized by the constitution, but this is the first time I am questioning the motives.

Finally, anybody who would consider v****g for Biden says just about all i need to know about them. Next you'll be telling us how qualified Hildebeast is.

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Sep 5, 2015 11:09:50   #
Leon S Loc: Minnesota
 
RichieC wrote:
President can NOT just launch nukes at the drop of a hat, it takes a considerable amount of agreement. at every step. ANy person in the chain who disagrees can stop it at the drop of a hat. Right down to the launch operators who must agree upon every step and do it in tandem. Know that a lot of Generals in key positions have been dismissed at an alarming rate with the common thread that they opposed the current presidents actions, and that troops have been tested on wether they would fire on American citizens, and death sentences have been ordered on American Citizens without due course of law.

Yes I for one, was JUST as worried about presidents eroding our rights as recognized by the constitution, but this is the first time I am questioning the motives.

Finally, anybody who would consider v****g for Biden says just about all i need to know about them. Next you'll be telling us how qualified Hildebeast is.
President can NOT just launch nukes at the drop of... (show quote)



Read the War Powers Act. The President can start a war if this country is under severe threat or if attacked. Troops can also be sent for 60 days without congressional agreement. Not following the Presidents orders is usually called a c**p, treason, or mutiny.

Biden was an example, don't get your tighties tangled. Its a long way to the actual e******ns.

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