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Calibrating with a ColorMunki Photo device
Sep 4, 2015 20:45:04   #
N4646W
 
Got the ColorMunki Photo device & software. Calibrated our monitors just fine. Ran the calibration for our printer (Epson 9600), but Light Rm 5, DXO, and Perfect Photo 9 will not print from the profile. Standard paper profiles work just fine, but would like to be able to use the calibrated profiles. Has anyone else run into this problem?

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Sep 4, 2015 21:04:39   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
I assume that you mean a ColorMunki Photo calibration device: http://www.colormunki.com/product/show?is_designer_type , which includes "Black ColorMunki spectrophotometer, ColorMunki profiling software, ColorMunki Photo ColorPicker and DigitalPouch software, Interactive Training DVD, ColorMunki protection bag/monitor holder, Quick Start Guide and USB power cord. ColorMunki Photo includes an unlimited seat license for all users." http://www.colormunki.com/download/CM-Photo_Download-lowres_EN.pdf

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Sep 4, 2015 21:33:03   #
N4646W
 
Nikonian72 wrote:
I assume that you mean a ColorMunki Photo calibration device: http://www.colormunki.com/product/show?is_designer_type
Yes, calibrated with the device. Monitor calibration worked, able to print out the calibration sheet for the printer, read it, rerun, and set the calibration profile for the paper. Photo programs will spool the printer, but fail to print. Get the message (Error Printing).

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Sep 5, 2015 14:35:30   #
N4646W
 
Fixed it. Believe me I do not understand how or why this worked.
I used the CM monitor profile. It printed, way too dark, but it was a profile created by CM. So, I redid the print again using the CM printer profile, and it printed. Colors came out very close to what was viewable on my monitor.
All the rest of my ICC profiles still work. Like I said, I don't understand why this worked, but it did, and I'm a dumb but happy camper.

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Sep 6, 2015 05:30:52   #
35B Loc: Australia
 
Thanks Ron for the info. I used the colormunki profile & my print came out too dark. I only printed the one print and gave up thinking I had not done it right. I will try again like you did & see what happens.

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Sep 6, 2015 10:03:02   #
N4646W
 
35B wrote:
I will try again like you did & see what happens.
I'll keep my finger crossed for you. As I said, it does not make any sense. I have contacted X-rite, and they want me to send them a bunch of info. Will do so when I get back from work. Will update if they come up with something.

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Sep 22, 2015 08:31:55   #
Psergel Loc: New Mexico
 
N4646W wrote:
I used the CM monitor profile. It printed, way too dark, but it was a profile created by CM. So, I redid the print again using the CM printer profile, and it printed. Colors came out very close to what was viewable on my monitor.
All the rest of my ICC profiles still work. Like I said, I don't understand why this worked, but it did, and I'm a dumb but happy camper.
I'm no expert but.....I think that what you experienced is pretty much normal.
Most monitors have their brightness set too high so when you are working on an image it looks brighter to you than it actually is (in terms of what is going to the printer.)
So.......after calibration you need to adjust your images to look how you wish and...now they print like they look on the screen.

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Sep 22, 2015 21:39:18   #
N4646W
 
Psergel wrote:
I'm no expert, but I think that what you experienced is pretty much normal. Most monitors have their brightness set too high so when you are working on an image it looks brighter to you than it actually is (in terms of what is going to the printer).
Your correct, but my problem was that the paper profile would cause the printer to hang and finally give an error message. Just for grins, I went back and used the monitor profile instead of the printer/paper profile in LR and the printer did print it out, but way too dark. Went and redid the print using the printer/paper profile and it did print. I just don't understand why using the monitor profile triggered the printer so that the printer/paper profile would work. So far have not had any response from X-Rite.

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Nov 22, 2015 18:44:27   #
ygelman Loc: new -- North of Poughkeepsie!
 
N4646W wrote:
Believe me I do not understand how or why this worked.
I used the CM monitor profile. It printed, way too dark, but it was a profile created by CM. So, I redid the print again using the CM printer profile, and it printed. Colors came out very close to what was viewable on my monitor.
All the rest of my ICC profiles still work. Like I said, I don't understand why this worked, but it did, and I'm a dumb but happy camper.
35B wrote:
Thanks Ron for the info. I used the colormunki profile & my print came out too dark. I only printed the one print and gave up thinking I had not done it right. I will try again like you did & see what happens.
So, 35B, did that work for you???

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Nov 28, 2015 21:23:56   #
35B Loc: Australia
 
No, I still have problems which I am still sorting out.
Sorry for the delay with reply, have had a couple of days off. cheers,

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Nov 29, 2015 13:56:28   #
N4646W
 
35B wrote:
No, I still have problems which I am still sorting out. Sorry for the delay with reply, have had a couple of days off. cheers,
couple of things I noticed. Make sure the device sits firmly on the screen, (you may have to slant the monitor to do this) use the advance settings and the ambient light function. The reason for using the ambient light function is that I have noticed that on some monitors, there seems to be a gap in the front panel and actual screen which seems to screw thing up. Also use the monitors supplied drivers, this "will" make a difference.

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Nov 29, 2015 16:59:51   #
35B Loc: Australia
 
Hi Ron, thanks for the info.

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Jun 12, 2017 18:46:35   #
Yourstruly43
 
The programs you mentioned above don't support soft proofing. You will need to use Photoshop or the new Affinity Photo which is discussed in another part of this site.

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Jun 17, 2017 12:03:58   #
N4646W
 
Yourstruly43 wrote:
The programs you mentioned above don't support soft proofing. You will need to use Photoshop or the new Affinity Photo which is discussed in another part of this site.


If a program that I use does not directly offer a soft proof button, they all have the ability to load the paper profile. Once you load the profile, your adjustments are made accordingly. You can verify this by switching paper profiles after you have made all your adjustments. In some cases it will be quite obvious, and others subtle.

Ron

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Jun 18, 2017 09:29:13   #
Yourstruly43
 
Interesting. I use several programs where it either needs to be turned on (Photoshop) or exists a an adjustment layer (Affinity). I have contacted the authors of some post processing filters for Photoshop that can also work as stand alone's and they told me that they don't support soft proofing.

Can you give me some examples of programs that load both monitor and paper profiles for specific papers and use them in what you see on the screen and in the print?

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