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Sep 4, 2015 00:10:12   #
luvmypets Loc: Born & raised Texan living in Fayetteville NC
 
mdsiamese wrote:
I was using a d700 before upgrading to the d810. Being able to continue to use all of my compact flash cards was a huge relief. But I do like being able to also use the less expensive and more prevalent SD cards.


Thank you for your input. I appreciate it.

(Love the photo of your Siamese. I have a VERY spoiled, diva, Blue-Point who will be 13 this year.)

Thanks!!
Dodie

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Sep 4, 2015 00:11:41   #
luvmypets Loc: Born & raised Texan living in Fayetteville NC
 
ggttc wrote:
Ok...having shot the 810...the files in raw are about 50 mb...32 0r 64 gig card...do the math...because I cant count my fingers and toes without writing in down


Thanks!! I'll get my calculator out in a minute and figure that out!

Dodie

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Sep 4, 2015 00:14:44   #
luvmypets Loc: Born & raised Texan living in Fayetteville NC
 
Dan821 wrote:
I use both 32GB and 64GB cards in my D810
I also have some newer 128GB CF cards that I use.
The objective of the shoot determines which card capacity I select.


I have several sizes in the SD's so I will probably have matching sizes in CF. I don't think I have seen the 128's but then currently having several SD cards for my D7000, I haven't been looking so I will have to check that out.

Thank you!!
Dodie

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Sep 4, 2015 00:16:23   #
luvmypets Loc: Born & raised Texan living in Fayetteville NC
 
cjc2 wrote:
My personal preference is for CF cards and that's because I have a large investment in them. Because they are bigger, I do find them harder to loose track of. I guess I would also have to admit that I like them because that's what I'm used to. I have no issue with replacing technology, but I haven't seen any better for what I do than the CF cards. IMHO!


Your opinion is greatly appreciated and the more opinions I read the more options and info I have.

Thanks!!

Dodie

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Sep 4, 2015 00:26:57   #
luvmypets Loc: Born & raised Texan living in Fayetteville NC
 
Bugfan wrote:
When I started in digital there were many cards but the two most popular were the CF and the SD cards. The divide was simple too, the professional gear used CF and the consumer gear used SD. The problem though, when you have two standards for the same thing, is that you end up with higher costs making and maintaining two different flavours of memory cards. So a decision was taken somewhere in the industry that the SD card would be the standard. As a result you'll find most laptops come with an SD card reader built in and you'll find that practically everything that's made now uses that card.

In terms of your questions, manufacturers who make high end stuff find themselves in a quandary. Those who use CF cards often have a large number of them. They would not appreciate being forced into buying all new cards and changing standards after spending thousands of dollars for a new high end camera. So many compromise offer a slot for each in the newer models. Eventually though I think you'll find that the CF card would disappear soon enough.

As to "better", both have issues. The CF card is quite robust and for a time had higher capacities and performance since it is also larger. The main issue with these cards is the many pins. If you accidentally bent a pin in the camera you were into an expensive repair.

SD cards seem more flimsy and delicate and until recently were limited in terms of how much memory they would carry or how fast it will perform. At the same time they don't have as many pins. They also have a switch that allows you to turn off the card thereby preventing write operations.

At this stage too it doesn't matter which is better, the CF card is on its way out so you may as well stock up on SD cards instead. In terms of performance, that depends on the camera. I use 60 MB/second cards for my D800 and my D3, that seems fast enough to allow the cameras to work flat out. If I ever have a faster camera I'll probably be looking for another faster card.

In terms of brand, the Sandisk and the Kingston ones have good reputations but I think you'll find the members here have many more favourites that they swear by. In fact it's hard to make a recommendation.

There are very few companies (two or three I think) who manufacture these memories and the controller that allows you to read and write to the memory. These two components are then assembled by the companies who place their name on the card. The problem is that the cards can have memory from one maker and a controller from another and this mix changes constantly, so in fact it's not easy to say that a particular brand is better than another because they all seem to come out of the same pot.

Regarding your choice of camera, I personally prefer FX sensors, they create higher image quality. That leads you to the D800 and the D750. At this point then how much resolution do you need?

I use a D800 because I do mostly macro work. To me that resolution is an answer to my prayers. Sometimes it's impossible to get close enough to a subject to fill the sensor. In those moments there's enough resolution to get a sharp crop. The down side of the camera is that it's slow, four to five frames per second, and it's unforgiving. With that resolution you better keep your lenses squeaky clean because every spec shows up on your images. You need to also keep the sensor clean.

For non macro work I prefer my D3, it's faster and allows me to work in very low light situations.

The same could be considered for your choices. I'd say the D750 is an excellent general camera whereas the D800 is more into areas where you need high resolution.
When I started in digital there were many cards bu... (show quote)


Thank you so much for all the information you have given me. I have learned a whole lot from this thread and have great ideas to try.

I was originally going to go with the 750 but have seen some fantastic photos that were shot with 800's and 810's that are super sharp and sharp is what I am looking for. I know to invest in good glass and the glass I have now is better than what I purchased with the D7000. These new lenses have made a great improvement in IQ in my photos but I am looking for much better. I do shoot a variety of things from my pets (these photos are just snapshots and will probably be taken with 7000 once the 810 is purchased) flowers, landscapes. I don't shoot people unless it is something like a party. I don't do portraits or weddings. I do some close ups of flowers and things but haven't gone macro at this point. I do want my landscapes to be super sharp.

Thanks again for the info. I'm making notes like crazy thanks to all the wonderful replys.

Dodie

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Sep 4, 2015 00:29:38   #
luvmypets Loc: Born & raised Texan living in Fayetteville NC
 
cjc2 wrote:
While I don't really want to, as I have thousands invested, I have to agree with all of what Bugfan wrote. In addition to fewer pins, the SD card, along with the other similar types, have contacts on the card which eliminates one issue. I also concur with his assessment of the sensors available, although I suspect I'll still buy the next model. I would love to have a D810, but with the sports performance of a D4s! It's nice to have a dream!


Sports is not something I shoot so for now the 810 will work for me. Right now the 810 is still a dream for me. I have to save my pennies but hopefully it will be a reality in the not to distant future.

Thanks!!
Dodie

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Sep 4, 2015 00:31:12   #
luvmypets Loc: Born & raised Texan living in Fayetteville NC
 
davidrb wrote:
SD or CF? Politics, religion, rock and roll, and memory cards. Opinions, lots and lots of opinions. The one thing we know for certain is if the camera takes two cards, the slowest card, regardless of which type, will drag the other card down to it's speed. Easiest way to avoid problems is to use the same speed cards. If that isn't possible use only one. Or, you can put up with the slowdown.


I agree. I will make sure to purchase CF cards to match the speed of my SD's.

Thank you for your input!!

Dodie

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Sep 4, 2015 00:55:58   #
MrT Loc: Gilbert, AZ
 
I have a D7000 and a D800. I bought the D800 and started researching CF cards while using the SD cards from the D7000 in the D800. CF cards can be significantly faster than SD cards in the same camera. I noticed this immediately after buying a high speed CF card for the D800. You can get an analysis of many different cards with D810 or D750 at http://www.cameramemoryspeed.com/ Good luck and Happy shooting with which ever choice you make.

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Sep 4, 2015 01:06:51   #
luvmypets Loc: Born & raised Texan living in Fayetteville NC
 
MrT wrote:
I have a D7000 and a D800. I bought the D800 and started researching CF cards while using the SD cards from the D7000 in the D800. CF cards can be significantly faster than SD cards in the same camera. I noticed this immediately after buying a high speed CF card for the D800. You can get an analysis of many different cards with D810 or D750 at http://www.cameramemoryspeed.com/ Good luck and Happy shooting with which ever choice you make.


Thank you for that information and website. I see a lot of information there that I am going to want to read.

Thanks!!

Dodie

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Sep 4, 2015 05:38:33   #
Leitz Loc: Solms
 
luvmypets wrote:
I am debating between the Nikon D810 and the D750. In my searches I came across a photo of the memory card slots of the 810 and saw there is an SD card and a Compact Flash card. Why the compact flash card?

If it's better than why not both slots for the compact cards?

My D7000 has 2 SD cards. I have been shooting RAW on one card and JPEG on the second.

Any information will be greatly appreciated!!!!


Those who are undecided about which camera also tend to be undecided about which memory card, so Nikon included both types in one camera to eliminate that point of indecision. Now THAT's consumer consideration!

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