Classified Government Material (Page 2): wuz cleared sec/sar (another GDM 82) but have no idea how high that was...

EdM Loc: FN30JS

wuz cleared sec/sar (another GDM 82) but have no idea how high that was...

DaveO Loc: Northeast CT

Cykdelic wrote:

.... reading or disseminating without clearance or authority are crimes.

True, but so is jaywalking. Rarely enforced and minor penalty maybe.

If the letter of the intent of the law was followed, there would be a long line many years old. Not an excuse, research a little and you may find it's a fact.
:-)

DaveO Loc: Northeast CT

EdM wrote:

wuz cleared sec/sar (another GDM 82) but have no idea how high that was...

There are a lot of weird ones! In my earlier days I had one that related to crypto access. Found out it was confined to my at that time Secret Clearance. Within a year I was handling classified logistics for troops in Viet Nam. Who would care about the classified info I had access to? Not much doubt the enemy knew a heck of a lot more than I did! :roll:

EdM Loc: FN30JS

everyone in my now defunct company had secret, except housekeeping, and some of those also.. we had areas where the local fire dept was instructed NOT to enter (let burn)with a memo (DD) on their wall...
as a funny aside, I had an area (closed) which for whatever stupid reason, they stored a classified camera (ultra high speed 16mm)[ b4 video], which was listed as being worth $10k.. the camera was Totally useless, ran thru 100 ft film in a few seconds,otherwise I would have played with it,, but every 3 months or so, someone from the govt would show up with someone from the property office to see that GDM "camera"....

DaveO Loc: Northeast CT

EdM wrote:

everyone in my now defunct company had secret, except housekeeping, and some of those also.. we had areas where the local fire dept was instructed NOT to enter (let burn)with a memo (DD) on their wall...

Funny when you mentioned housekeeping! I worked in a facility for a couple years that entailed critical shipments of an extremely,extremely sensitive substance. It's movement was right out of the movies. My point being that I knew at least a day before management told me because some of our maintenance staff, janitorial type, would let some of us know because of certain functions they performed. They were always right! They had lower level clearances. :lol: :lol: :roll:

EdM Loc: FN30JS

too people many had access to that area... someone clipped the telephone from it, and because of the areas classification and I wuz "in charge " of it, I got interviewed by a retired Bronx homicide detective... Damn glad I did not clip that telephone!!!!!!!!

phlash46 Loc: Westchester County, New York

EdM wrote:

and to answer the rest of your question, you either get fired, lose your clearance or go to jail, unless, of coarse you are politically connected to the party in power... shit!

or, in your case, don't read what the OP says about not injecting politics...BTW, buy a dictionary.

DaveO Loc: Northeast CT

EdM wrote:

too people many had access to that area... someone clipped the telephone from it, and because of the areas classification and I wuz "in charge " of it, I got interviewed by a retired Bronx homicide detective... Damn glad I did not clip that telephone!!!!!!!!

I am going to opt out of any reference to any such things. I have the right to remain silent... :lol: :lol: :lol:

toma1940 Loc: Silicon Valley, CA

Tom Blanton, Director, National Security Archive is an expert on classification. Their website would provide you with objective information of this subject. Personally, having worked over 40 years w/classified information My assessment is what is and is not classified is completely out of control and need fixing. Not a political statement just honest

DaveO wrote:

There are several items in the news regarding classified documents. What does classified mean? How critical is it? Who usually violates proper protocol? What penalties are typically imposed?

Just a couple of helpers, obviously much more info available, CFR's,etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classified_information_in_the_United_States

http://www.archives.gov/isoo/faqs/identifying-handling-classified-records.html

DaveO Loc: Northeast CT

toma1940 wrote:

Tom Blanton, Director, National Security Archive is an expert on classification. Their website would provide you with objective information of this subject. Personally, having worked over 40 years w/classified information My assessment is what is and is not classified is completely out of control and need fixing. Not a political statement just honest

Exactly! Kind of grey for being so clearly defined! Adding in the many civilian contractors helped, I would imagine, to increase the disarray. Not a new issue for sure.

oregon don

Keep in mind that on more than one occasion classified label just covered some general's or Admiral's screwup, hot date with another Admiral's, General's wife.

The padding of their expense account (how many billions of Dollars was misplaced in Iraq? )

DaveO Loc: Northeast CT

By the way, I do not portend myself to be very knowledgeable on this subject. My intent was to point out that sometimes our perceptions need a little clarity before formulating our opinions. There is a lot of useful info available. An alligator mouth coupled to a humming bird butt is not usually a good thing. :lol: :lol:

DaveO Loc: Northeast CT

oregon don wrote:

Keep in mind that on more than one occasion classified label just covered some general's or Admiral's screwup, hot date with another Admiral's, General's wife.

The padding of their expense account (how many billions of Dollars was misplaced in Iraq? )

Do you realize that if you just released information that is classified, you may be in violation? :lol: :lol: :lol: Probably about that easy...

Duggy

everything today is political or you must have not woke up yet?

DaveO Loc: Northeast CT

Duggy wrote:

everything today is political or you must have not woke up yet?

Political or tied to money, same thing.