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Aug 2, 2015 10:33:12   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
selmslie wrote:
Who said there was no subject?


Minnie said it :-) - the first two have boring subjects and the last one had no subject at all unless you accept the premise that light itself can be a subject, an unanswered question I've raised before in another section.

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Aug 2, 2015 10:47:02   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
minniev wrote:
Minnie said it :-) - the first two have boring subjects and the last one had no subject at all unless you accept the premise that light itself can be a subject, an unanswered question I've raised before in another section.

You were being too modest. Of course there is a subject in all three.

Light alone is not sufficient unless it reflects off of something.

Even if you are simply taking a photo of the sun the subject might be sunspots or solar flare.

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Aug 2, 2015 11:04:17   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
selmslie wrote:
You were being too modest. Of course there is a subject in all three.

Light alone is not sufficient unless it reflects off of something.

Even if you are simply taking a photo of the sun the subject might be sunspots or solar flare.


Spoken like a true technical expert, which is exactly the opposite of me. Yes, anything that my autofocus can settle on is essentially a subject of some type, but my home location is full of humdrum things rather than grand subjects so I have learned to make a bit of lemonade out of the lemons. I do enjoy the grand and exciting subjects when I travel, but I don't just sit in my house and wait for the next trip, I get right out there with the dead water lilies, ratty buzzards, gravel backroads to the latest pipeline excavation and see what there may be to see. And I hope others do the same.

The fun of this section is that folks with disparate viewpoints can share ideas!

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Aug 2, 2015 13:09:29   #
ediesaul
 
selmslie wrote:
Who said there was no subject?


I thought that minniev said that there was no subject, but that her main ingredient was light. Perhaps I am mistaken. In that case, I apologize.

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Aug 2, 2015 23:11:43   #
lighthouse Loc: No Fixed Abode
 
St3v3M wrote:
From another post there was a link with the same title as above that said:

From http: //www.lightstalking.com/5-fundamental-elements-of-great-photographs
"There are five common elements that great images typically have; Good use of light, color, a captivating moment, correct composition for the given situation, and the photographers choice of distance to their subject. Many times good images will use one or two of these elements, but lack strength in the others."

Of the five elements, which is your favorite and why?
- Light
- Color
- Moment
- Composition
- Distance
From another post there was a link with the same t... (show quote)


Light and composition with subject ranking a distant third.
Oops, subject is not one of the options.
Color is irrelevant, contrast and tone and subtlety is much more important. I like black and whites and many images where colour does not even come into it. The exception to this is when colour would be used as a compositional element but that probably more correctly comes under contrast and composition.
Distance, all distances are equally appealing depending on the shot. I like UWA, I like tele, I like macro, I like the "big picture".
The moment- absolutely critical to some images, but not the top of my list. I am a landscape and seascape photog. If I was a sports or news or street photog it might be number one on my list.
Light in front of composition, because the true landscape photog can sit on the same composition for hours, or sometimes years, waiting upon the light, and the light hits and all the rest comes together, colour, subject, the moment, the strength of the composition, the tones, the subtlety.

Really, its all of them juggled in different amounts isn't it?

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Aug 2, 2015 23:22:20   #
lighthouse Loc: No Fixed Abode
 
selmslie wrote:
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Light alone is not sufficient unless it reflects off of something.

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Yes, I suppose this would be correct.
After all, light is black in the vacuum of space.

Not many of us photograph the black vacuum of space though.
What F/stop would you use for that?

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Aug 2, 2015 23:23:03   #
St3v3M Loc: 35,000 feet
 
lighthouse wrote:
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Really, its all of them juggled in different amounts isn't it?

Well said. S-

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Aug 4, 2015 01:45:19   #
Dr.db Loc: Central Point, OR
 
Given that nuttin' would be nuttin' without light!...

Composition is the only of the other 4 aspects that apply to all images (Color, Moment, and Distance each being insignificant or at least uncritical in SOME circumstances.) :)

Composition is for light wranglers.

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Aug 4, 2015 09:31:42   #
ediesaul
 
lighthouse wrote:
Yes, I suppose this would be correct.
After all, light is black in the vacuum of space.

Not many of us photograph the black vacuum of space though.
What F/stop would you use for that?


But we do photograph blackness, don't we? We use it as space in comparison to whatever else there is in the photo. Maybe the subject is the blackness itself.

Here's a link to a painting that is hanging in the Tate!

Kasimir Malevich’s Black Square
http://www.tate.org.uk/art/research-publications/the-sublime/philip-shaw-kasimir-malevichs-black-square-r1141459

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Aug 4, 2015 20:43:01   #
MIKE GALLAGHER Loc: New Zealand
 
The story.

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