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Jul 30, 2015 19:47:12   #
Travesty Loc: Chicago Burbs, USA
 
I would have to say I am most keen on #3... If only the moon were slightly more offset.. They are all wonderful images Linda... :)

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Jul 30, 2015 20:23:54   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
Uuglypher wrote:
... those, he just terms lying!

and i'm really curious about the circumstances inder which the purchaser of an art print, in any medium, can "claim damages". ...

Lying would occur if the material changes are not disclosed. Damages would follow from, "You lied to me, I want my money back." That's why a casual viewer can't recover damages, the are not out any money.

I was vague about "materially misrepresents reality". To be more specific, removing a tree, cloning out power lines, adding a moon, removing a person who was actually present and other changes might misrepresent the actual scene. So would changes to a person's facial structure like you can with Portrait Professional. Even perspective correction of verticals might be questionable. Cropping or leveling a horizon would be OK.

On the other hand, removing something that is not a routine part of the scene like a cigarette butt or candy wrapper might be OK since they may not normally be present.

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Jul 30, 2015 22:32:09   #
Uuglypher Loc: South Dakota (East River)
 
selmslie wrote:
Lying would occur if the material changes are not disclosed. Damages would follow from, "You lied to me, I want my money back." That's why a casual viewer can't recover damages, the are not out any money.

I was vague about "materially misrepresents reality". To be more specific, removing a tree, cloning out power lines, adding a moon, removing a person who was actually present and other changes might misrepresent the actual scene. So would changes to a person's facial structure like you can with Portrait Professional. Even perspective correction of verticals might be questionable. Cropping or leveling a horizon would be OK.

On the other hand, removing something that is not a routine part of the scene like a cigarette butt or candy wrapper might be OK since they may not normally be present.
Lying would occur if the material changes are not ... (show quote)


It has been nteresting to discover the variety of "takes" there are on this general topic. Thanks, Scotty, for adding yours to the growing list, and thank you, Linda, for starting this interesting thread!

Dave

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Jul 31, 2015 07:12:28   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Travesty wrote:
I would have to say I am most keen on #3... If only the moon were slightly more offset.. They are all wonderful images Linda... :)


Thanks so much for your visit, Randy!

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Aug 7, 2015 17:59:52   #
ebrunner Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
1. I have no idea which is the primary subject here. Are they equal? Do the two cancel each other out, or is there interest in seeing them together?

Can you offer suggestions for successful compositions involving two subjects?

2. One concern I have with a simple composition involving the moon is it looks like could easily be a composite :) A problem?

3. Image #3 was shot first, from a slightly different location and time (moon moving quickly from left to right, setting). If you find more interest in this one, can you explain why please. Thank you!
1. I have no idea which is the primary subject her... (show quote)


Between one and two, I'll go with one. I like the b&w better than the color here. I don't think the moon competes with the mountain. They are both important compositional elements. I don't see them being confusing to the viewer.

Third shot is a different story. Here you have a big space between the moon and the mountain. So here, I'm moving between one and then the other. That makes it a distraction to me.

As far as composite is concerned, I don't think that is an issue unless the viewer can tell that it is a composite. If you can integrate two images or more into one composition and pull it off convincingly, then it is fine. You are the artist and you get to decide what goes into your images. The only limiting factor here is technique.

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