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Jul 27, 2015 10:55:08   #
Rickyb
 
Using the new Canon 5DS with 50 mgp sensor, how much computer memory is needed to operate efficiently?

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Jul 27, 2015 10:57:00   #
SonnyE Loc: Communist California, USA
 
You can never have too much computer memory.
Get the biggest... fastest... baddest... memory you can.

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Jul 27, 2015 10:58:04   #
Leitz Loc: Solms
 
Rickyb wrote:
Using the new Canon 5DS with 50 mgp sensor, how much computer memory is needed to operate efficiently?


Max it out, you won't regret it!

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Jul 27, 2015 11:04:33   #
Mike D. Loc: Crowley County, CO.
 
A general rule of thumb is to have at least twice as much memory as the number of cores in your processor. ie: a 4 core processor should have 8 gb of on-board memory just for the cpu but I would also tend to agree with the more is better in this case.

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Jul 27, 2015 11:06:44   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
Rickyb wrote:
Using the new Canon 5DS with 50 mgp sensor, how much computer memory is needed to operate efficiently?

Take your most demanding software requirement and multiply it by two.

Too much memory while sounding great on paper is detrimental to the computer performance. It is often better when you have 16GB memory to add a fast HDD or SSD* used as scratch/temp disk.

I have a D800e (a mere 36mp) and often I brought my PC down when post processing (PS CC**) due the the scratch disk being too slow. I switched it to a SSD and now I have no problems*.

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* I format that drive once a week
** I use detailed luminosity masks which treble the weight in size and memory. That makes PS CC use the scratch disk often, if not all the time despite having 24GB!!!

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Jul 27, 2015 11:11:58   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
SonnyE wrote:
You can never have too much computer memory.
Get the biggest... fastest... baddest... memory you can.


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
--Bob

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Jul 27, 2015 11:29:00   #
warrior Loc: Paso Robles CA
 
SonnyE wrote:
You can never have too much computer memory.
Get the biggest... fastest... baddest... memory you can.


"Thanks for the memories" Mr. Hope :D

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Jul 27, 2015 11:44:19   #
SonnyE Loc: Communist California, USA
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Take your most demanding software requirement and multiply it by two.

Too much memory while sounding great on paper is detrimental to the computer performance. It is often better when you have 16GB memory to add a fast HDD or SSD* used as scratch/temp disk.

I have a D800e (a mere 36mp) and often I brought my PC down when post processing (PS CC**) due the the scratch disk being too slow. I switched it to a SSD and now I have no problems*.

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* I format that drive once a week
** I use detailed luminosity masks which treble the weight in size and memory. That makes PS CC use the scratch disk often, if not all the time despite having 24GB!!!
Take your most demanding software requirement and ... (show quote)


You are confusing storage with RAM.
I liken the computer storage to a room. A room you partition and format to make storage (file cabinets).
In the middle of that room is a Table (RAM). That is where the CPU brings programs when you open them to work with.
The bigger that table is, the more efficiently the computer can open bigger files to work with them.

16GB of RAM is like putting a 52" table in the boardroom, and bringing in 20 executives.

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Jul 27, 2015 12:11:36   #
N4646W
 
SonnyE wrote:
You are confusing storage with RAM.
I liken the computer storage to a room. A room you partition and format to make storage (file cabinets).
In the middle of that room is a Table (RAM). That is where the CPU brings programs when you open them to work with.
The bigger that table is, the more efficiently the computer can open bigger files to work with them.

16GB of RAM is like putting a 52" table in the boardroom, and bringing in 20 executives.


He is correct, a slower disk speed hinders the memory. Faster disk speed allows less memory to function more responsively and not having to clog itself. Using a faster disk set aside as a scratch disk works. I have one raptor (70g) partitioned as a page file and scratch disk. With 16 gig of memory I never have seen over 9gig of memory usage, and that is only when using very large CAD files in 3d mode

Ron

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Jul 27, 2015 12:16:10   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
SonnyE wrote:
You are confusing storage with RAM.
I liken the computer storage to a room. A room you partition and format to make storage (file cabinets).
In the middle of that room is a Table (RAM). That is where the CPU brings programs when you open them to work with.
The bigger that table is, the more efficiently the computer can open bigger files to work with them.

16GB of RAM is like putting a 52" table in the boardroom, and bringing in 20 executives.

I am not confused about anything.

Most software use temp files especially PS CC. Having too much memory is not a good idea DESPITE YOUR OPINION. What we need most of the time is a fast disk to deal with temp files written to the disk all the time this being a web browser or a sophisticated image editor. Having more memory works only up to a point.

You may want to check your understanding of how software works before spouting off false information.

Storage confusion, indeed.

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Jul 27, 2015 12:22:06   #
SonnyE Loc: Communist California, USA
 
I'm not the one who's name starts off with "Rong"... ;)

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Jul 27, 2015 20:50:04   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Rongnongno wrote:
I am not confused about anything.

Most software use temp files especially PS CC. Having too much memory is not a good idea DESPITE YOUR OPINION. What we need most of the time is a fast disk to deal with temp files written to the disk all the time this being a web browser or a sophisticated image editor. Having more memory works only up to a point.

You may want to check your understanding of how software works before spouting off false information.

Storage confusion, indeed.
I am not confused about anything. br br Most soft... (show quote)


It does depend on the software, but RAM has always been faster (parallel vs. serial). Memory paging in virtual memory on a disk started when software needed more physical memory space than what was available.
Because software now is so memory intensive and there are probably a hundred plus processes running on your computer, I would go with the most you can get.

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Jul 27, 2015 21:00:06   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
SonnyE wrote:
You can never have too much computer memory.
Get the biggest... fastest... baddest... memory you can.


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :D

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Jul 27, 2015 21:51:01   #
DWU2 Loc: Phoenix Arizona area
 
SonnyE wrote:
You can never have too much computer memory.
Get the biggest... fastest... baddest... memory you can.


You can never be too rich, or too thin, or have too much RAM.

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Jul 27, 2015 22:41:02   #
Garyminor Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Most software use temp files especially PS CC. Having too much memory is not a good idea DESPITE YOUR OPINION. What we need most of the time is a fast disk to deal with temp files written to the disk all the time this being a web browser or a sophisticated image editor. Having more memory works only up to a point.


I don't know how PS CC uses temp files, but I know that the Windows operating system must have data in RAM in order to operate on it. If it has more operational data than it has room for in RAM, it uses disk space to temporarily hold the overflow.

The more RAM it has, the less it needs to use the disk space. If the system has enough RAM so that the disk is not needed, then more RAM is not beneficial. However, I have never heard anyone other than you claim that you can have too much RAM. Note: I realize that RAM cost money, requires power, and produces heat, but I'm talking about performance.

A fast disk is also important, but the OP asked how much computer memory is enough. I took this to be RAM.

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