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Mar 30, 2012 14:17:23   #
I STOP TO SHOOT Loc: By the No. CA Sea
 
Good morning..
In one of the discussions, someone stated that you never put your name and etc. on the backing of their framed photo. My unexperienced question is ...why not?

Where do you purchase these supplies for:
1. Hole type punch that doesn't take lots of strength (I have been using a nail and hammer) to punch a hole to get the little wire screws into the wood
2. I hear there is an apparatus to grip the hole in the wire screw that turns it better than the hand. Where would one find this?
3. The brown paper used in the back to cover the whole back frame (I have been using brown paper that one uses to wrap box for mailing or is there a thinner brown paper, if so where?
4. Tapes for framing (double sided and picture/matte tape)?

I do so appreciate any information (web sites are fine) and update. Thank you for your help.

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Mar 30, 2012 16:09:52   #
bubbaDon Loc: southern tier, New York
 
In my area we have a Micheals,& a Hobby Lobby, both of these place would have what you need.

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Mar 30, 2012 17:47:47   #
photocat Loc: Atlanta, Ga
 
Many people sign their work on the back side, it is called verso. Always in pencil at least with analog papers, ink jet papers not as easy to use a pencil so folks use an archival ink type pen.

You might try documounts.com they have a wide variety of mounting and framing materials.

Also, this is an outstanding company for mounting and framing supplies

http://www.framedestination.com/

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Mar 30, 2012 18:16:24   #
vicksart Loc: Novato, CA -earthquake country
 
I have a small framing business and generally get my supplies from a wholesale company. That said, I've discovered Jerry's Artarma has very good prices and everything you need.

Rather than screw eyes, I would recommend using the rings that attach to frames with screws. You attach the hanging wire to them the same way you would to screw eyes. They allow the frame to lay flatter against the wall. For smaller frames, you can get by with saw-toothed hangers.

Also, buy a roll of craft paper for the backing (dust cover). It has no wrinkles and is much easier to work with than paper bags. If you want to pay a little more, get the black craft paper if you're framing with black frames. There are various types of double-backed tape applicators that you can get to attach the craft paper to the frame and are great time savers.

Another "must have" is a point driver. It functions a bit like a staple gun but drives "framer's points" into wooden frames to secure your matting and mounted picture.

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Mar 31, 2012 07:11:14   #
vciro Loc: Wantagh, Long Island, NY
 
I've had pretty good luck with this site.

http://www.framing4yourself.com/shop/

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Mar 31, 2012 09:38:56   #
Terry Scott Reed Loc: Reading, PA
 
All good advice so far. Jerry's Artarama is great to deal with. In my area, we have a chain, A.C. Moore. They very frequently run coupons for 50% off any one item. That's how I bought my mat cutter!
BTW, if you do enough of it, Jerry's can't be beat on quantities (25 pcs) of backing foam and also mat board. It pays!
I have found Framefit.com is good for frames. Glass you need to buy locally, but shop around--don't take the first quote. Here again, if you can buy 10 pcs or so, it helps the price. It also helps to tactfully let the owner know you'll likely be a repeater!
Best,
Terry

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Mar 31, 2012 10:04:43   #
Indi Loc: L. I., NY, Palm Beach Cty when it's cold.
 
I STOP TO SHOOT wrote:
Good morning..
In one of the discussions, someone stated that you never put your name and etc. on the backing of their framed photo. My unexperienced question is ...why not?

Where do you purchase these supplies for:
1. Hole type punch that doesn't take lots of strength (I have been using a nail and hammer) to punch a hole to get the little wire screws into the wood

You can use an awl to start the hole.
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2. I hear there is an apparatus to grip the hole in the wire screw that turns it better than the hand. Where would one find this?
Once started, you can use an allen wrench to turn the eye.
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3. The brown paper used in the back to cover the whole back frame (I have been using brown paper that one uses to wrap box for mailing or is there a thinner brown paper, if so where?
Don't want it too thin or you can easily poke a hole through it.
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4. Tapes for framing (double sided and picture/matte tape)?
Double-sided tape is best.
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I do so appreciate any information (web sites are fine) and update. Thank you for your help.
Good morning.. br In one of the discussions, someo... (show quote)


Check with Michaels, AC Moore, Blick, et al.
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Mar 31, 2012 11:50:17   #
CAM1017 Loc: Chiloquin, Oregon
 
I STOP TO SHOOT wrote:
Good morning..
In one of the discussions, someone stated that you never put your name and etc. on the backing of their framed photo. My unexperienced question is ...why not?

Where do you purchase these supplies for:
1. Hole type punch that doesn't take lots of strength (I have been using a nail and hammer) to punch a hole to get the little wire screws into the wood
2. I hear there is an apparatus to grip the hole in the wire screw that turns it better than the hand. Where would one find this?
3. The brown paper used in the back to cover the whole back frame (I have been using brown paper that one uses to wrap box for mailing or is there a thinner brown paper, if so where?
4. Tapes for framing (double sided and picture/matte tape)?

I do so appreciate any information (web sites are fine) and update. Thank you for your help.
Good morning.. br In one of the discussions, someo... (show quote)


On item 1 & 2 I use a 1/16" Diameter drill in a hand turned drill to put holes in the frame for the the eye screws. I used a hand cranked drill because I feel that I have better control over the depth of the hole. With an electric powered drill it is very easy to drill to deep and go thru the frame. When installing the eye screw, I hold it with needle nose plies and put a long nail or small diameter rod thru the eye hole and turn it until the screw is started and then finish up with the pliers. The key to the whole process is a good drilled hole.

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Mar 31, 2012 12:22:53   #
vicksart Loc: Novato, CA -earthquake country
 
I use a power drill but I set a very small bit in it so that only about 1/2" is protruding. I drill the hole in the thickest part of the frame (if thickness varies). So far, I've never drilled too deep.

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Mar 31, 2012 12:30:54   #
CAM1017 Loc: Chiloquin, Oregon
 
vicksart wrote:
I use a power drill but I set a very small bit in it so that only about 1/2" is protruding. I drill the hole in the thickest part of the frame (if thickness varies). So far, I've never drilled too deep.


That works. Good idea. The important thing is to drill a pilot hole and then you have the control you need to install the screw straight. This is standard machine shop practice.

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Mar 31, 2012 13:01:45   #
I STOP TO SHOOT Loc: By the No. CA Sea
 
Thank you, we do have a Michaels 90 miles one way.. I guess I should of said web sites so I can look call and order, thank you for your reply.

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Mar 31, 2012 13:03:59   #
I STOP TO SHOOT Loc: By the No. CA Sea
 
photocat wrote:
Many people sign their work on the back side, it is called verso. Always in pencil at least with analog papers, ink jet papers not as easy to use a pencil so folks use an archival ink type pen.

You might try documounts.com they have a wide variety of mounting and framing materials.

Also, this is an outstanding company for mounting and framing supplies

http://www.framedestination.com/


Thank you for the Web Site.. When I was speaking of the back of picture, I meant the very back, after the paper to keep the dust out. But the info you gave is good to know to share with the camera club... Thank you again for your reply.

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Mar 31, 2012 13:06:17   #
I STOP TO SHOOT Loc: By the No. CA Sea
 
Thank you for the web site lead and for responding.

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Mar 31, 2012 13:07:23   #
I STOP TO SHOOT Loc: By the No. CA Sea
 
Thanks to all of you.... Appreciate your assistance

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Mar 31, 2012 16:03:01   #
Jack Disbrow Loc: Northern New Jersey
 
A question: There has been a discussion concerning the best way to sell photos to the general public ... matted only, or matted and framed. Those who lean toward the matt only explain that the photos can be sold that way for a more competitive price, and the wrong fram (color, size, etc.) might turn off more buyers than it attracts.

Any thoughts on this? I suppose that one approach is to matt the photos, offer than at a fair price, and have a framing service available for those who prefer it.

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