FULL FRAME VS CROP SENSOR (Page 2): If you have the money go for it...

Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI

stumbo wrote:

I greatly appreciate everyone's input. It is very helpful to get a cross section of suggestions and opinions. Thank you all.

If you have the money go for it...

Tjohn Loc: Inverness, FL formerly Arivaca, AZ

stumbo wrote:

I presently have a Canon 7D and the new 7D Mkii. I... (show quote)

I think the main difference will be the maximum print size and less loss when you have to crop a picture where the situation when shooting dictated image exposed.

joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois

stumbo wrote:

I presently have a Canon 7D and the new 7D Mkii. I... (show quote)

You would gain incremental improvements in IQ, metering, high ISO and AF.

Sell both and go for 1D X.

rjaywallace Loc: Wisconsin

Thank you to myper812, but in order for the rest of us to watch the Crop vs. Full Frame video from SLR Lounge:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?t=170&v=l4_YokbwVNw

(The "s" on "https" is unnecessary)

Chuckwal Loc: Boynton Beach Florida

made the move to ff last march with 6D 24 105 mm L
lens also have macro and telephoto my pic quality improved
low light with 6D is terrific
chuck

ralphc4176 Loc: Conyers, GA

My take on FF versus crop sensor is that the FF creates more detailed RAW files (and generally larger JPEGs in camera) than the APS-C cameras. But if you never make extremely large prints, you'll never notice the difference between the FF and the crop sensor cameras for most shooting situations. I have several of both, including a mirrorless FF; they all take great pictures for printing at 4x6 inches. And you could take the RAW files from a crop-sensor camera and produce some uncompressed tiffs which could be used to make a great enlargement, if you're not trying for huge.
My US$0.02 worth this morning.

Whoops

If you already have a 7d and a 7d mII and have to ask about the 5Dmkiii benefits, you are trinket buying. Since you posted the question, listen to the responses about the lenses

Just as importantly as the trinket buying, you haven't even identified the type of shooting your doing, nor the limits you've encountered with the two 7D's, nor what you're looking fore in the expanded capabilities of the 5D. That tells me you haven't done the research on the 3 cameras, let alone the 5D.

Again, trinket purchasing. Donate the money to a worthwhile charity- thats a picture that will keep on giving

Djack41 Loc: Tennessee

Since your primarily shooting landscape and your lenses are EF, the purchase of a 5D Mark3 is a smart move.

davidrb Loc: Half way there on the 45th Parallel

joer wrote:

You would gain incremental improvements in IQ, metering, high ISO and AF.

Sell both and go for 1D X.

The OP is terminally confused. Re-read his 2nd and 3rd sentences. He wants to shoot action landscapes. Even "Google" has difficulties with the concept of action landscapes. "My camera can shoot 125fps of that mountain." Sounds like another case of "I have NO idea what this camera does, I just want THAT model because it seems cool". Action landscapes? Hello to the veteran shooters to explain this.

Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska

davidrb wrote:

The OP is terminally confused. Re-read his 2nd and 3rd sentences. He wants to shoot action landscapes. Even "Google" has difficulties with the concept of action landscapes. "My camera can shoot 125fps of that mountain." Sounds like another case of "I have NO idea what this camera does, I just want THAT model because it seems cool". Action landscapes? Hello to the veteran shooters to explain this.

The OP said no such things. Read it again.

He clearly indicated he wants the 5D3 to better shoot the landscapes he mostly does, but has the APS-C cameras because he also shoots sports and other fast action that requires the higher frame rate. That is a typical reason for deciding to have two camera bodies, because one size does not fit all.

dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia

You appear to be selling the 7D and keeping the 7D II for your action shots (a good call IMHO.) The addition of a FF camera would make a difference in your landscapes as a result of the better low-light sensitivity of the larger sensor. So if you do a lot of night-time landscapes, you will be ewell served by a FF.

Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska

dsmeltz wrote:

You appear to be selling the 7D and keeping the 7D II for your action shots (a good call IMHO.) The addition of a FF camera would make a difference in your landscapes as a result of the better low-light sensitivity of the larger sensor. So if you do a lot of night-time landscapes, you will be ewell served by a FF.

Actually the 5D3 has better dynamic range at any ISO higher than 250. So virtually an light less that bright sunshine will likely be better with the 5D3, particularly including any day with a cloud in the sky...

dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia

Apaflo wrote:

Actually the 5D3 has better dynamic range at any ISO higher than 250. So virtually an light less that bright sunshine will likely be better with the 5D3, particularly including any day with a cloud in the sky...

We were obviously writing at the same time and reacting to the same misreading of the OP's question. I chose to focus on the extreme end benefit to highlight it. But yes, the 5D III is way better for so many things and, until the 7D II, was the affordable (relative term) choice for action as well.

I think the OP would be very happy with the 7D II and 5D III (currently available for $2,500) combo for the uses indicated.

boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander

davidrb wrote:

The OP is terminally confused. Re-read his 2nd and 3rd sentences. He wants to shoot action landscapes. Even "Google" has difficulties with the concept of action landscapes. "My camera can shoot 125fps of that mountain." Sounds like another case of "I have NO idea what this camera does, I just want THAT model because it seems cool". Action landscapes? Hello to the veteran shooters to explain this.

Active landscapes involve recording plate tectonics. They have very active movement on the order of,as much as, 1 inch a year. This would require a very heavy duty tripod ( about $1,000 ) and extreme burst rate. Only a digital Hassy would do, with a full array of glass. If the OP wants to pi$$ away serious money, thats the only way to go. Talk about full frame.

Jim Bob

Cdouthitt wrote:

I know this isn't answering your question, but...are you looking to get a backup body? Is that why you want two cameras? If that's the case, and your not a pro, then get another 7d2 (or keep your 7d) and invest in quality glass...that's where you'll see the biggest improvement.

Geesus. Not again.