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Jul 18, 2015 08:14:41   #
Bogin Bob Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida
 
Requesting recommendations to reset Lightroom on new hard drive.

Background:
1. My laptop's SSD hard drive failed. It was partitioned where C: drive was system and applications and L: drive was data and photos
2. Hard drive L: drive was backuped daily to the Cloud using CrashPlan
3. Since the SSD will not boot I replaced it with the original SATA hard drive and hoped for the best.
4. I RESTORED the files (photos etc) from Crashplan to a new folder on my Desktop and it appears all photos are back to Desktop
5. I downloaded clean Adobe CC and installed Lr. It has no photos and is ready to be linked to catalog and photos

According to online chat with Adobe CC tech they are suggesting ..
1) move folders and files to the working hard drive partition L:
2) open Catalog (I assume it is what looks like a text file

Thanks

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Jul 18, 2015 08:17:44   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Bogin Bob wrote:
Requesting recommendations to reset Lightroom on new hard drive.

Background:
1. My laptop's SSD hard drive failed. It was partitioned where C: drive was system and applications and L: drive was data and photos
2. Hard drive L: drive was backuped daily to the Cloud using CrashPlan
3. Since the SSD will not boot I replaced it with the original SATA hard drive and hoped for the best.
4. I RESTORED the files (photos etc) from Crashplan to a new folder on my Desktop and it appears all photos are back to Desktop
5. I downloaded clean Adobe CC and installed Lr. It has no photos and is ready to be linked to catalog and photos

According to online chat with Adobe CC tech they are suggesting ..
1) move folders and files to the working hard drive partition L:
2) open Catalog (I assume it is what looks like a text file

Thanks
Requesting recommendations to reset Lightroom on n... (show quote)

So this was an SSD you added yourself? What computer and what SSD? I put a Samsung 500GB drive in my iMac.

Taking advice from Adobe seems like a good idea.

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Jul 18, 2015 08:26:23   #
Bogin Bob Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida
 
Purchased Toshiba Satelite had a 500 Gig SATA and I replaced it with 250 Gig Samsung SSD a year ago. Been fine and fast but I went to do a system retore after some quirky operation and got a Windows error I cannot clear and won't get past initial 'Toshiba' screen. Cannot get into Safe Mode. Luckily I had the orginal drive and put it in and up and running. Just a newbie with Lightroom and doubling down on advise before moving photos.

Adobe did say that if Lightroom cannot 'find' photos/folders I can instruct it or tell it where the folder is.

Bob

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Jul 18, 2015 08:45:03   #
jmizera Loc: Austin Texas
 
Bogin Bob wrote:
Purchased Toshiba Satelite had a 500 Gig SATA and I replaced it with 250 Gig Samsung SSD a year ago. Been fine and fast but I went to do a system retore after some quirky operation and got a Windows error I cannot clear and won't get past initial 'Toshiba' screen. Cannot get into Safe Mode. Luckily I had the orginal drive and put it in and up and running. Just a newbie with Lightroom and doubling down on advise before moving photos.

Adobe did say that if Lightroom cannot 'find' photos/folders I can instruct it or tell it where the folder is.

Bob
Purchased Toshiba Satelite had a 500 Gig SATA and ... (show quote)


If you restored to a folder of a different name or path, and/or a different drive letter, this will break the catalog. If this is the problem, you can fix this by changing the drive letter and path to match.

I have Paragon to backup my system drive image for a couple of years now. Highly recommend it, as it had saved my bacon a couple of times now.

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Jul 18, 2015 08:53:24   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
Bogin Bob wrote:
Requesting recommendations to reset Lightroom on new hard drive.

Background:
1. My laptop's SSD hard drive failed. It was partitioned where C: drive was system and applications and L: drive was data and photos
2. Hard drive L: drive was backuped daily to the Cloud using CrashPlan
3. Since the SSD will not boot I replaced it with the original SATA hard drive and hoped for the best.
4. I RESTORED the files (photos etc) from Crashplan to a new folder on my Desktop and it appears all photos are back to Desktop
5. I downloaded clean Adobe CC and installed Lr. It has no photos and is ready to be linked to catalog and photos

According to online chat with Adobe CC tech they are suggesting ..
1) move folders and files to the working hard drive partition L:
2) open Catalog (I assume it is what looks like a text file

Thanks
Requesting recommendations to reset Lightroom on n... (show quote)


You probably should only use a SSD for your O/S (for speed) and not your data or photographs. Use a good SATA Drive for that with external back-up.

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Jul 18, 2015 08:54:27   #
Bogin Bob Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida
 
Joe: Thanks, I think you validated what I was proposing. Since CrashPlan defaults to the Desktop, I am going to move those folders to the L: drive along with the Lightroom/Catalog.

Yes - this experience made me a 're-believer' in creating a system image periodically (I did have an old Clone-Zilla created image but very confusing to restore). Now I am ripping my house apart trying to locate the CD's for all the software - ha ha.

Bob

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Jul 18, 2015 09:02:51   #
Bogin Bob Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida
 
Mike - Yes I have seen that recommended for desktop systems where SSD for system and 2nd drive - SATA for data. I think they call it hybrid. My data is safe in Crashplan and externally (external drive) via Windows File History ... weekly. Right now dragging an external everytime I edit photos doesn't excite me but may be worth reconsiderings. My photos are less than 30 Gig of space.

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Jul 18, 2015 09:03:19   #
Mr PC Loc: Austin, TX
 
If you put your photos and catalog in the original location, all should be well. Otherwise, any folders or photos that come up with a question mark in Lightroom can be pointed to the new location. Good luck!

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Jul 18, 2015 10:14:19   #
Bogin Bob Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida
 
Thank you, hereeeeee we gooooooo!

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Jul 19, 2015 06:50:20   #
BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA
 
lamiaceae wrote:
You probably should only use a SSD for your O/S (for speed) and not your data or photographs. Use a good SATA Drive for that with external back-up.


Absolutely. Leave the data files for an external HD except for temporary storage while away from home. This will leave adequate free space for scratch disk use and now bog your laptop down.

Fina a program for Windows, that will make an exact bootable copy of your internal drive and then keep it updated. The copy can be a laptop sized 2.5" drive. That way if the usual boot disk figuratively blows up, you can just swap in the back up and be in business.

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Jul 19, 2015 09:52:18   #
Bogin Bob Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida
 
Everyone thanks. We are up and running.

1. Partitioned HDD: The C:\ drive = system and programs and Lr Catalog and the L:\ drive = data, photos and Catalog backups
2. Daily backup of L:\ to CrashPlan
3. Windows File History backup of Photos to external weekly
4. System Image is a 'copied' SSD (which saved me here)

One question: my 'working' Catalog location is in a folder on Desktop 'Lightroom Catalog' I am assuming that is OK since Lightroom works fine and all Collections, Stars, Ratings as in past. Is that correct?

Bob

PS: Attempted Windows System Image but cloning fails on 8.1, so will probably look to try EaseUS Free Backer plus create full image on clean SSD.

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Jul 19, 2015 12:20:32   #
BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA
 
Bogin Bob wrote:
Everyone thanks. We are up and running.

1. Partitioned HDD: The C:\ drive = system and programs and Lr Catalog and the L:\ drive = data, photos and Catalog backups
2. Daily backup of L:\ to CrashPlan
3. Windows File History backup of Photos to external weekly
4. System Image is a 'copied' SSD (which saved me here)

One question: my 'working' Catalog location is in a folder on Desktop 'Lightroom Catalog' I am assuming that is OK since Lightroom works fine and all Collections, Stars, Ratings as in past. Is that correct?

Bob

PS: Attempted Windows System Image but cloning fails on 8.1, so will probably look to try EaseUS Free Backer plus create full image on clean SSD.
Everyone thanks. We are up and running. br br 1.... (show quote)


It has always been my understanding that a lot of folders and files on the desk top tends to slow PCs and Macs down due to the extra items to do a screen refresh. When you reach the tipping point is a god question however.

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Jul 19, 2015 13:00:03   #
Bogin Bob Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida
 
I believe you are right on. The 'failed' (soon to be reformatted) 250 Gig SSD was choking with system, apps and data and having 35 Gig of free space in each partition ...
When installed a year ago, it was lightning fast with boot of under 25 seconds - but over time and using it, it became noticeably slower.

When I re-installed this original SATA (500 Gig) to recover from this latest issue (it was my pseudo drive image) speed was much better. I have a Samsung 500 Gig SSD I purchased on Black Friday last year and was always planning to replace the 250 SSD and make that an external. The 500 gig SSD should provide 'room' for expansion and use without impacting speed.

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Jul 20, 2015 00:45:09   #
Kuzano
 
Two important "actions" on SSD drives.

Turn off File Indexing
Never Defrag an SSD drive

This was discussed at length in a previous post on UHH along with a number of other shortcomings of SSD.

Do a search if you are stuck on using SSD. That's the end of my post on this... I'm not using SSD, at all.

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Jul 21, 2015 13:11:13   #
romanticf16 Loc: Commerce Twp, MI
 
jerryc41 wrote:
So this was an SSD you added yourself? What computer and what SSD? I put a Samsung 500GB drive in my iMac.

Taking advice from Adobe seems like a good idea.


When you installed your Samsung SSD did you install "Trim Enabler" Software? It adds the items that Apple puts on their SSDs for maintenance. FYI It can be installed after you are up and running. I learned about it from Mac Group Detroit. Paul

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