Full Frame Cameras
Jul 15, 2015 16:28:58 #
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Jul 15, 2015 16:34:48 #
kfoo wrote:
What is the main advantage of a full frame camera?
IQ and lower noise. Picture pixels are relatively larger and one gets better IQ with less noise with less dense pixel packing.
Jul 15, 2015 17:16:19 #
For me, the lower noise at high ISO is the biggest advantage.
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kfoo wrote:
What is the main advantage of a full frame camera?
Jul 15, 2015 17:52:13 #
kfoo wrote:
What is the main advantage of a full frame camera?
K, FF cameras are ultimately capable of taking a better pic than most crop cameras.
Also, most being prosumer cameras or better, as opposed to consumer cameras(which is most crop cams), a FF is usually more robustly built and the bodies are better suited to taking full advantage of the capabilities and capacities of pro lenses. Though some of the better crop cams share some of those traits
Most of the above is very important to many pros but may not have as much importance to non-pros.
The FF higher cost also reflects those facts. ;-)
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Jul 15, 2015 18:49:10 #
jdubu
Loc: San Jose, CA
Wide angle lenses are truly the same wide angle. You don't lose the wideness due to crop factor.
Plus all the above about consumer vs prosumer and pro bodies.
Plus all the above about consumer vs prosumer and pro bodies.
Jul 15, 2015 19:11:07 #
Disadvantages: Full frame cameras are usually more expensive, full frame lenses are usually more expensive, and they weigh more and usually take up more room in the kit bag.
Jul 15, 2015 19:53:03 #
Jul 15, 2015 21:56:33 #
I don' know how you can say that. To get the same focal length and wide angle view as a 19mm wide angle lens on a full frame camera, you would need a 13mm lens on a DX camera with a 1.5 crop factor. For me the wider angle for landscapes is the main advantage of a full frame camera. That 19mm lens on a DX camera gets the same field of view as a 28mm lens on the full frame, not wide angle at all.
Going the other way, when I shoot birds I use the Mirrorless Nikon1 J1 with a CX sensor and 2.7x crop factor to get an 810mm field of view with my Nikkor AFS VR 55-300mm zoom.
The advantages and disadvantages of sensor sizes depends mostly on how and what you shoot.
Going the other way, when I shoot birds I use the Mirrorless Nikon1 J1 with a CX sensor and 2.7x crop factor to get an 810mm field of view with my Nikkor AFS VR 55-300mm zoom.
The advantages and disadvantages of sensor sizes depends mostly on how and what you shoot.
jdubu wrote:
Wide angle lenses are truly the same wide angle. You don't lose the wideness due to crop factor.
Plus all the above about consumer vs prosumer and pro bodies.
Plus all the above about consumer vs prosumer and pro bodies.
Jul 15, 2015 22:21:31 #
Bragging .... :-) The current, top line models from Nikon and Canon show you really have to be pressing the upper ISOs to justify the expense and loss of the crop factor that full frame provide ...
Jul 15, 2015 22:46:28 #
kfoo wrote:
What is the main advantage of a full frame camera?
You can hit a mugger over the head more effectively than with a mirrorless.
Jul 15, 2015 22:49:27 #
teesquare
Loc: USA
n3eg wrote:
You can hit a mugger over the head more effectively than with a mirrorless.
Hysterical.....
:lol:
Jul 15, 2015 22:55:55 #
jdubu
Loc: San Jose, CA
Bobspez wrote:
I don' know how you can say that. To get the same ... (show quote)
"Wide angle lenses are truly the same wide angle. You don't lose the wideness due to crop factor." That was in reference to his question of what is the advantage of a FF camera. There is no loss of wideness from crop factor because there is no crop factor.
Did i not say that correctly? A wide angle lens on a FF camera is a wide angle lens of that mm. you don't have any narrowing to your field of view due to crop factor.
I agree that that is a major plus for FF cameras, but like the exposure triangle, you get from one side, you give on the other. Crop factor on the tele end is an advantage for reach.
Jul 15, 2015 23:02:48 #
teesquare
Loc: USA
I have owned full frame gear - and think of it as "conditionally better".
The conditions are MAYBE if you need to print LARGE posters, or shoot in very low light conditions.
The "fixation" that many seem to have about the "vast" superiority of FF vs cropped - are likely a few generations of cameras behind.
The current generation of cropped censored cameras have closed the gap significantly enough - that unless one earns their living shooting landscapes to be printed very large - or perhaps studio work in a low light setting it is hard to justify the benefit any longer.
Sure, there will be limited exceptions - but for the great majority of users, FF just does not make enough sense to justify the cost, size and weight.
The conditions are MAYBE if you need to print LARGE posters, or shoot in very low light conditions.
The "fixation" that many seem to have about the "vast" superiority of FF vs cropped - are likely a few generations of cameras behind.
The current generation of cropped censored cameras have closed the gap significantly enough - that unless one earns their living shooting landscapes to be printed very large - or perhaps studio work in a low light setting it is hard to justify the benefit any longer.
Sure, there will be limited exceptions - but for the great majority of users, FF just does not make enough sense to justify the cost, size and weight.
Jul 15, 2015 23:21:45 #
jdubu
Loc: San Jose, CA
I have both FF and crop sensor bodies. I tend to use the FF's for my interior architecture work, mainly because my TS lenses on a FF gives better results with less distortion, less PP.
My crop sensor bodies get used when the shooting situation warrants their attributes. I just want to use the right tool for the right job.
I don't notice any appreciable weight differences between them, most of the weight resides in my lenses.
My crop sensor bodies get used when the shooting situation warrants their attributes. I just want to use the right tool for the right job.
I don't notice any appreciable weight differences between them, most of the weight resides in my lenses.
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