Raising the minimum wage?
Jul 13, 2015 11:21:10 #
Raising the minimum wage?
I wish someone could explain to me in simple terms how raising the minimum wage really helps. My thinking is you raise the minimum wage a dollar and within a month or so all retailers usually raise their prices to adjust for the increase in labor costs. When this happens seems to me the person who really needs the raise is only helped out for a month or so. As I see it the only entity that really might benefit is the federal government through taxes. That raise may put some folks in a higher tax bracket or into having to pay taxes period, where they didn't have pay anything before. Am I wrong?
I wish someone could explain to me in simple terms how raising the minimum wage really helps. My thinking is you raise the minimum wage a dollar and within a month or so all retailers usually raise their prices to adjust for the increase in labor costs. When this happens seems to me the person who really needs the raise is only helped out for a month or so. As I see it the only entity that really might benefit is the federal government through taxes. That raise may put some folks in a higher tax bracket or into having to pay taxes period, where they didn't have pay anything before. Am I wrong?
Jul 13, 2015 11:27:49 #
Jul 13, 2015 11:36:52 #
1968 in france , the second revolution was on , just like here the low class [ me ] could not afford to live , after massive strikes and demonstrations , the gov ordered a 60 % paid raise overnight , the fat cats where squealing that they would be going broke, and the inflation [ price rise ] would go thru the roof . my paycheck went up about 60 % , the prices went about 10% up , the fat cats did not go broke . in san diego , a hole in the wall will cost at least $ 1200 a month , you do the math . to be able to leave in LA , expert say that the minimum wage should be a least $ 20 .. a hour +.the standard of living for the low class in this country is at a banana republic level .in 1970 in this country you could live relatively well at minimum wage , today , you live in a cardboard box .
Jul 13, 2015 11:41:02 #
agillot wrote:
1968 in france , the second revolution was on , ju... (show quote)
If you haven't had a raise since 1970 .... then you might be the proplem.
Jul 13, 2015 11:44:02 #
Huey Driver wrote:
Raising the minimum wage? br br I wish someone c... (show quote)
You are correct.
The H.S. kids get a raise.
Entry level people get a raise.
Every breadwinner gets no raise but higher prices.
Every retiree on S.S. gets no raise but higher prices.
Standard of living goes down for everyone except kids and low level employees living at home.
Jul 13, 2015 11:54:26 #
I wonder where the "brilliant" politician SOB's think the raise in minimum wages will actually come from.
I've been in business for myself for 25-plus years, & I have had employees & also I have had no employees as well. Much better without.
MANY times the worker-employees' take-home was higher than mine, if I got paid at all that week.
Many (most) small businesses are barely scratching out a living, and hearing "fat cat" comments from anybody indicates to me that they've always had a "worker mentality" between their ears, telling them that the boss is doing great, while they're suffering to make him a "fat cat."
I've been in business for myself for 25-plus years, & I have had employees & also I have had no employees as well. Much better without.
MANY times the worker-employees' take-home was higher than mine, if I got paid at all that week.
Many (most) small businesses are barely scratching out a living, and hearing "fat cat" comments from anybody indicates to me that they've always had a "worker mentality" between their ears, telling them that the boss is doing great, while they're suffering to make him a "fat cat."
Jul 13, 2015 11:55:39 #
Minimum wages need to be adjusted at a local or state level as the cost of living varies so widely across this country. One drawback to raising the rate is that not only do the lowest paid workers get an increase, so do all the other people in between the current & the new rate...Plus, Union contracts (and many other wage scales) are based on the prevailing minimum wage. Thus someone making other than minimum but over the proposed rate will also see an increase in their wages as wages are indexed to the minimum...
Jul 13, 2015 12:01:53 #
So, you are saying pay people without any marketable skills that much ? If you do, then the people making more than that will want a comparable increase in their wages. That would send inflation spiraling out of control & then it would go back to a vicious cycle of people once again not being able to afford to live on the new wages. I think it would be better to teach people marketable skills so that they can improve their lot in life, not a handout.
agillot wrote:
. in san diego , a hole in the wall will cost at least $ 1200 a month , you do the math . to be able to leave in LA , expert say that the minimum wage should be a least $ 20 .. a hour +.the standard of living for the low class in this country is at a banana republic level .in 1970 in this country you could live relatively well at minimum wage , today , you live in a cardboard box .
Jul 13, 2015 12:03:42 #
the 'free enterprise' system worked great for 200 years.
we went from nothing to the greatest country in the world.
then we got liberals wanting socialism.
we went from nothing to the greatest country in the world.
then we got liberals wanting socialism.
Jul 13, 2015 12:40:41 #
willowpix wrote:
Spot on, but gets votes from the non-thinkers.
Thinkers are missing some points too - Minimum wage has went years without going up with inflation - unions have negotiated these needed raises - government officials have given themselves these raises AND SS has given cost of living raises.
Some not mentioned benefits big business gets from working folks part time: they never pay overtime any more - much less a living wage/weeks pay - they just call in someone who is sitting next to the phone with the hopes of getting called in - the ones not sitting by the phone are usually at a second job or looking for a way to make a few extra $$.
Just how much of our welfare cost will go down - look at the %/number of people who are on food stamps that are actually employed at these starvation wages.
Yes - I am for raising the minimum wage as well as building in a cost of living raise such as built into SS. If it is good enough for our government officials it is good for the works.
Jul 13, 2015 12:48:11 #
Hunter Lou 1947
Loc: Minnesota
Huey Driver wrote:
Raising the minimum wage? br br I wish someone c... (show quote)
Well then, why don't we all work for nothing. Just rely on the government to get us along. Who and the hell benefits then?
Jul 13, 2015 13:01:42 #
paulrph1
Loc: Washington, Utah
Let's look at the big picture. A person who makes more has usually made sacrifices to get to where he is now. In other words he has lived for years on low wages in order to get an education and develop more skills so he can retain a better job. Under the current system a person should get paid for what they are worth and if their skills are not sufficient they should develop better skills. A ditch digger should not be paid as much as a chemical engineer. Too legislate equal pay removes incentive for improvement. Anyone can flip burgers or fry French Fries but takes more than that to become the head chef. More knowledge, more pressure, and more duties and more responsibilities.
Then there is the story of the little red hen.
Then there is the story of the little red hen.
Jul 13, 2015 13:15:07 #
paulrph1 wrote:
Let's look at the big picture. A person who makes... (show quote)
This is a good philosophy BUT life just not work that way for so many. I have worked in Nevada which is a right to work state - the company I worked for did pay more to us who were more skilled and had better work ethics - still it was not what I made doing the same job 3 mi away in CA.
Jul 13, 2015 13:17:58 #
Likely just because of the different standard of living. Were home costs, grocery costs, et al the same in both locations or were there differences ? I got transferred from a location in Maryland (Union State) to Georgia (Right to Work State). No change in pay & I went from having to work my full time job & 2 different part time jobs to make ends meet in Maryland (wife worked too), to the pay from my full time job alone providing for us. Almost everything cost less.
Harvey wrote:
This is a good philosophy BUT life just not work that way for so many. I have worked in Nevada which is a right to work state - the company I worked for did pay more to us who were more skilled and had better work ethics - still it was not what I made doing the same job 3 mi away in CA.
Jul 13, 2015 17:39:38 #
don't forget written in to the contracts on big union jobs like the auto industry, every time minimum wage goes up, wages of autoworkers goes up. Now you know why the democRATS are always pushing minimum wage hikes.
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