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Jul 10, 2015 06:31:09   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
I figured that headline would get your attention. Did you ever wonder why medieval paintings have such ugly faces?

http://www.vox.com/2015/7/8/8908825/ugly-medieval-babies

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Jul 10, 2015 08:24:41   #
debbie wrazen Loc: Western New York
 
Thank you for that enlightning lesson. We can learn so much about a time period's perspective. The plague was also a factor in how art was created during that time period. Infant mortality was over 50%. Mothers and fathers could not get too attached to a child . Viewing the Christ child as a 'man child' gave the average person the idea that perhaps their deceased beloved child had perhaps had the opportunity to grow up in heaven. It gave the grieving parents emotional support in order to go on living.

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Jul 10, 2015 10:32:38   #
jederick Loc: Northern Utah
 
debbie wrazen wrote:
Thank you for that enlightning lesson. We can learn so much about a time period's perspective. The plague was also a factor in how art was created during that time period. Infant mortality was over 50%. Mothers and fathers could not get too attached to a child . Viewing the Christ child as a 'man child' gave the average person the idea that perhaps their deceased beloved child had perhaps had the opportunity to grow up in heaven. It gave the grieving parents emotional support in order to go on living.
Thank you for that enlightning lesson. We can le... (show quote)


This is an interesting concept debbie and the first time I've heard of this take on early art/children. Thanks for sharing this concept!

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Jul 10, 2015 16:19:07   #
debbie wrazen Loc: Western New York
 
You're welcome. I had to take some liberal arts courses during college and so I took Art History for two semesters. Interesting that in the 21st century photographers capture babies sleeping in fetal positions among fruits and vegetables. It is a common experience for very pregnant women to be photographed in sheer gowns against a regal background now. They are so proud of their motherhood status with seemingly little fear. Good health care and plentiful sources of food allow mothers to feel confident in their survival and that of their infants. Even 60 years ago, childbirth had many risks.

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Jul 10, 2015 23:28:02   #
n3eg Loc: West coast USA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I figured that headline would get your attention. Did you ever wonder why medieval paintings have such ugly faces?

http://www.vox.com/2015/7/8/8908825/ugly-medieval-babies


Some of those moms don't look too happy about their little demon babies either.

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Jul 11, 2015 02:29:40   #
Wrangler Loc: North Texas
 
When most people see a baby, they always say "he's so cute". They have no hair and no teeth. I'm 69 and have little hair and no teeth but no one looks at me and says "how cute". I'm jealous!

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Jul 11, 2015 07:20:30   #
raymondh Loc: Walker, MI
 
Most interesting - thanks for the post!

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Jul 11, 2015 07:40:49   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
n3eg wrote:
Some of those moms don't look too happy about their little demon babies either.

Did you see "Rosemary's Baby"? :D

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Jul 11, 2015 08:02:57   #
ole sarg Loc: south florida
 
My father made a sage observation regarding the new born:

The baby looks just like Eisenhower!

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Jul 11, 2015 08:19:47   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
ole sarg wrote:
My father made a sage observation regarding the new born:

The baby looks just like Eisenhower!

I've also heard Churchill mentioned.

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Jul 11, 2015 08:31:36   #
2Dragons Loc: The Back of Beyond
 
Wrangler wrote:
When most people see a baby, they always say "he's so cute". They have no hair and no teeth. I'm 69 and have little hair and no teeth but no one looks at me and says "how cute". I'm jealous!


ROFLMAO! I'm still cracking up. Thanks for a good-morning laugh.

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Jul 11, 2015 13:18:41   #
BBurns Loc: South Bay, California
 
Redd Foxx summed it up best years ago.

"Ugly kids come from ugly parents.
If you think I'm lying, follow an ugly kid home.
See if somebody ugly don't open the door for them!"

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Jul 11, 2015 13:25:31   #
Floyd Loc: Misplaced Texan in Florence, Alabama
 
BBurns wrote:
Redd Foxx summed it up best years ago.

"Ugly kids come from ugly parents.
If you think I'm lying, follow an ugly kid home.
See if somebody ugly don't open the door for them!"


Except to the immediate family, a newborn is ugly the first few hours out of the womb. Years ago our pastor, when confronted with a very newborn and rather than lie, he would comment, "Wow, that's some baby." I've used that line several time since.

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Jul 11, 2015 13:38:37   #
BBurns Loc: South Bay, California
 
We saw Rodman at the Comedy Club recently. He has a great take on Babies.

http://www.nbc.com/last-comic-standing/video/top-4-uncut-the-rod-man-set/2802644

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Jul 11, 2015 14:04:56   #
stonecherub Loc: Tucson, AZ
 
debbie wrote: "Infant mortality was over 50%. Mothers and fathers could not get too attached to a child ."

I have heard that, unattributed, many times but my experience wandering through grave yards and cemeteries in New England (mainly) was to find elaborate and expensive monuments on the graves of newborn and stillborn children.

Attached (I hope) is a stone from Yarmouth on Cape Cod cut in slate after 1720, a not insubstantial expense in those days. The "Y" shaped letter with a superscript "e" between its arms in the bottom line is a "thorn" carrying the "th" sound and still used in Icelandic. "Ye" is a cute-sey affectation in modern use as "Ye olde Lantern Pub."

This stone is rare in having a thorn-t on the second line, "Children that ware .."


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