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Jun 29, 2015 12:50:28   #
KarenKaptures Loc: New Jersey
 
I take photos at events and was present with my camera at a church event in a hall. There was a photographer across the room taking pictures for sale in front of a drop. I took a few shots (with a speed lite) of some of the attendees and the planners of the event came over to me and said that the photographer said my flash was making his flash go off. They asked me to stop shooting until after he was done (which I thought would be the end of the event). Since I take candid and posed shots of people I felt it would be pointless to even try to figure out when he was done so I put my camera away. This had never happened to me before or since.

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Jun 29, 2015 13:52:57   #
JPL
 
DJ Craig wrote:
I have been DJing weddings for over two decades. At all of these weddings I have always taken pictures, which I always share with the couple and also put onto my web site to promote my business. Following the cake cutting ceremony at Saturday's wedding, the paid photographer charged my DJ table and barked, "Your flash ruined all of my pictures!" Then he stormed off.

I've never experienced this (or anything like it) before. I have always been told that multiple "flashes" have an extremely small chance of interfering with other cameras because of the combination of the very short amount of time the light is on the subject and camera's quick shutter speeds.

Have I gotten wrong information about this?

As I said, I've never experienced this before. At weddings nowadays, everyone with a cell-phone is a photographer and flashes are popping throughout the wedding.
I have been DJing weddings for over two decades. A... (show quote)


No, you have hardly ruined any shots. He is blaming you for something that is not your fault. You may have distracted him a bit, but if he had been professional he would have dealt with it in another way.

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Jun 29, 2015 13:58:53   #
JPL
 
Digicamkay wrote:
I take photos at events and was present with my camera at a church event in a hall. There was a photographer across the room taking pictures for sale in front of a drop. I took a few shots (with a speed lite) of some of the attendees and the planners of the event came over to me and said that the photographer said my flash was making his flash go off. They asked me to stop shooting until after he was done (which I thought would be the end of the event). Since I take candid and posed shots of people I felt it would be pointless to even try to figure out when he was done so I put my camera away. This had never happened to me before or since.
I take photos at events and was present with my ca... (show quote)


Ok, this can happen if the photographer is using a old type flash sensitive slave flash. But today where everyone at parties and weddings have smartphones with flashes that can make that kind of flash go off, professional people use radio triggers and then this does not matter.

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Jun 29, 2015 14:09:42   #
jdubu Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Digicamkay wrote:
I take photos at events and was present with my camera at a church event in a hall. There was a photographer across the room taking pictures for sale in front of a drop. I took a few shots (with a speed lite) of some of the attendees and the planners of the event came over to me and said that the photographer said my flash was making his flash go off. They asked me to stop shooting until after he was done (which I thought would be the end of the event). Since I take candid and posed shots of people I felt it would be pointless to even try to figure out when he was done so I put my camera away. This had never happened to me before or since.
I take photos at events and was present with my ca... (show quote)


Any photographer at an event relying on flash activated strobes is asking for trouble. Does he demand everyone at the event not to use their p&s or cell phone? If he is paid for his work, that is a very shortsighted.

At a wedding reception, if a paid photographer has all his shots ruined by the flashes of others, then he should yell at everyone taking flash photos equally... not just one person.
I imagine every wedding photographer has had shots overexposed due to flash from others... but every shot? Very unlikely, unless he only shot one or two amidst the many guest shooting.

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Jun 29, 2015 14:15:34   #
KarenKaptures Loc: New Jersey
 
Thanks!

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Jun 29, 2015 14:16:45   #
BebuLamar
 
May be he just doesn't want you to have any pictures as it could cut down his print sale.

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Jun 29, 2015 14:20:16   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
Very true.... Back when I did weddings, flash activated strobes were all that was available (I had DIY units I made with photodiodes to contain costs)...Sounds like it must have been a novice at shooting weddings. Still what I posted earlier, I still stand behind.
jdubu wrote:
Any photographer at an event relying on flash activated strobes is asking for trouble. Does he demand everyone at the event not to use their p&s or cell phone? If he is paid for his work, that is a very shortsighted.


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Jun 29, 2015 14:34:17   #
Bill Houghton Loc: New York area
 
I wasn't there so I have no idea what was going on. I don't do weddings, but do take photos, where I am asked since there are allot of folks, meddling parents that don't trust the photographers today. When I do go with my camera I always talk to the Photographer and lay my cards on the table so say. That he is just to look at me an raise an hand, I back down from what I'm doing, He is the paid man.

With that said I can see how you could have ruined some of his photos. With you properly shooting in his direction, it would have sent his camera into a sensor spasm of a few seconds. Esp. of he was shooting in Full Auto. Just my two cents probably not worth much.

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Jun 29, 2015 14:46:14   #
jdubu Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
Very true.... Back when I did weddings, flash activated strobes were all that was available (I had DIY units I made with photodiodes to contain costs)...Sounds like it must have been a novice at shooting weddings. Still what I posted earlier, I still stand behind.


I agree with your sentiment, communicate with all the vendors so everyone is in sync... can't redo any wedding day mistakes.

Luckily for you back then there weren't phone cameras or P&S's, except for those little disposable cameras to contend.

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Jun 29, 2015 15:02:35   #
superpijak Loc: Middle TN
 
DJ Craig wrote:
I have been DJing weddings for over two decades. At all of these weddings I have always taken pictures, which I always share with the couple and also put onto my web site to promote my business. Following the cake cutting ceremony at Saturday's wedding, the paid photographer charged my DJ table and barked, "Your flash ruined all of my pictures!" Then he stormed off.

I've never experienced this (or anything like it) before. I have always been told that multiple "flashes" have an extremely small chance of interfering with other cameras because of the combination of the very short amount of time the light is on the subject and camera's quick shutter speeds.

Have I gotten wrong information about this?

As I said, I've never experienced this before. At weddings nowadays, everyone with a cell-phone is a photographer and flashes are popping throughout the wedding.
I have been DJing weddings for over two decades. A... (show quote)


As posted by others, if he was using slave flashes that trigger off another flash, perhaps.

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Jun 29, 2015 15:06:43   #
superpijak Loc: Middle TN
 
DJ Craig wrote:
I have been DJing weddings for over two decades. At all of these weddings I have always taken pictures, which I always share with the couple and also put onto my web site to promote my business. Following the cake cutting ceremony at Saturday's wedding, the paid photographer charged my DJ table and barked, "Your flash ruined all of my pictures!" Then he stormed off.

I've never experienced this (or anything like it) before. I have always been told that multiple "flashes" have an extremely small chance of interfering with other cameras because of the combination of the very short amount of time the light is on the subject and camera's quick shutter speeds.

Have I gotten wrong information about this?

As I said, I've never experienced this before. At weddings nowadays, everyone with a cell-phone is a photographer and flashes are popping throughout the wedding.
I have been DJing weddings for over two decades. A... (show quote)


Maybe he didn't like your music. :?:

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Jun 29, 2015 15:20:43   #
DJ Craig Loc: Payson, AZ (North-Central)
 
GTinSoCal wrote:
No, your information is correct.
The odds of you flash intruding on his exposures is very,, very slim.
You could have an issue with long exposures, which I've done before, but I just ask everyone to refrain from taking photos for a few minutes.
Never been much of an issue.
The days of no one else taking photos other than the "pro" are gone.

What I have done is to try to make a portion of the posed shots available to the guests that want to get their own.
I include shots of the the guests getting their photos, always a big hit :-)

GT
No, your information is correct. br The odds of yo... (show quote)


GT - thank you so much for your very insightful comments. Very much appreciated. DJ

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Jun 29, 2015 15:32:26   #
jaddottart Loc: Florida
 
Stick to spinning the disk's.Stay out out of the PAID GUYS business.........Or if you must shoot after he has set up the shot and confer before hand wether He[or She] minds.Photographers have enough trouble with all the relatives getting in their way.Plus they are on a schedule and have to get all the pic's before everyone is all slopped up,drunk and the family fights start.......

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Jun 29, 2015 15:47:42   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
DJ Craig wrote:
I have been DJing weddings for over two decades. At all of these weddings I have always taken pictures, which I always share with the couple and also put onto my web site to promote my business. Following the cake cutting ceremony at Saturday's wedding, the paid photographer charged my DJ table and barked, "Your flash ruined all of my pictures!" Then he stormed off.

I've never experienced this (or anything like it) before. I have always been told that multiple "flashes" have an extremely small chance of interfering with other cameras because of the combination of the very short amount of time the light is on the subject and camera's quick shutter speeds.

Have I gotten wrong information about this?

As I said, I've never experienced this before. At weddings nowadays, everyone with a cell-phone is a photographer and flashes are popping throughout the wedding.
I have been DJing weddings for over two decades. A... (show quote)


I can understand why the photographer got upset but its not likely you ruined any of his pictures.

Watch a major news event... all sorts of flashes are popping off all the time...everyone gets their shot.

Professional photographers don't like competition especially if the completion is not charging for the work. They are a possessive and insecure bunch.

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Jun 29, 2015 15:53:04   #
DJ Craig Loc: Payson, AZ (North-Central)
 
insman1132 wrote:
Interesting, DJ. Could I ask if you would have had a problem if the Photographer had taken out a BoomBox and started playing music?


To be honest, as a DJ, my responsibility is to play the music that the bride and groom have asked me to play. What anyone else does at the wedding is none of my business and it is not my place to tell anyone to stop doing whatever they are doing. I've also been the paid photographer (with and without DJing - I have an assistant) and my philosophy is the same. It's none of my business what anyone else does at the wedding and it's not my place to tell them to stop doing whatever.

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