What's the diff?
Jun 21, 2015 23:01:46 #
Is there a way to tell if a capture is from a FF or from a crop camera?
Other than EXIF data?
Because if there isn't, I'm not going to wait til HFO to get a new Canon...
Other than EXIF data?
Because if there isn't, I'm not going to wait til HFO to get a new Canon...
Jun 21, 2015 23:20:35 #
Meaning if there is no difference, you'll go buy a new camera but if there is a difference you'll save up for a full frame?
I assume you'll get new lenses for the full frame as well. That alone will make a big difference, as you'll be using better glass.
Maybe you should skip buying a new crop factor camera and buy better glass for what you now have.
Walt
I assume you'll get new lenses for the full frame as well. That alone will make a big difference, as you'll be using better glass.
Maybe you should skip buying a new crop factor camera and buy better glass for what you now have.
Walt
Jun 21, 2015 23:24:49 #
Toment wrote:
Is there a way to tell if a capture is from a FF or from a crop camera?
Other than EXIF data?
Because if there isn't, I'm not going to wait til HFO to get a new Canon...
Other than EXIF data?
Because if there isn't, I'm not going to wait til HFO to get a new Canon...
The crop camera image will look like the penny on the left, while the full frame image will look like the penny on the right.
Since there is, you can wait til HFO...
Jun 21, 2015 23:34:13 #
Jun 22, 2015 04:06:20 #
Toment wrote:
Is there a way to tell if a capture is from a FF or from a crop camera?
Other than EXIF data?
Because if there isn't, I'm not going to wait til HFO to get a new Canon...
Other than EXIF data?
Because if there isn't, I'm not going to wait til HFO to get a new Canon...
When I go through the gallery section on UHH and randomly look at the images posted (without looking at EXIF data or who posted the image), I can't tell with any certainty if the image was taken on a FF or crop camera. Whatever difference there is, it is miniscule. And whoever tells you they are able immediately recognize a FF camera image from crop camera image, is most likely giving you baloney. Photographer skill and choice of lens are far more important factors.
Jun 22, 2015 04:19:50 #
Toment wrote:
Is there a way to tell if a capture is from a FF or from a crop camera?
Other than EXIF data?
Because if there isn't, I'm not going to wait til HFO to get a new Canon...
Other than EXIF data?
Because if there isn't, I'm not going to wait til HFO to get a new Canon...
Toment, problem is, If you ONLY view on a monitor, it will never matter! Any 3000x2000 image will more than fill any monitor, so anything will look good. Now if you're actually gonna print, especially cropped or big, it could make a noticeable diff. ;-)
SS
Jun 22, 2015 06:32:52 #
Toment wrote:
Is there a way to tell if a capture is from a FF or from a crop camera?
Other than EXIF data?
Because if there isn't, I'm not going to wait til HFO to get a new Canon...
Other than EXIF data?
Because if there isn't, I'm not going to wait til HFO to get a new Canon...
I can usually tell in the printed output. Especially if they are side by side and shot similarly. A crop camera produces an image that needs to be enlarged 50% more to get to the same print size. if you are looking at images on a computer screen, it is very hard to tell.
Jun 22, 2015 07:35:23 #
jcboy3 wrote:
The crop camera image will look like the penny on the left, while the full frame image will look like the penny on the right.
Since there is, you can wait til HFO...
Since there is, you can wait til HFO...
Absurd analogy, today's DX images are superlative. Keep it up and people will believe such BS.
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Jun 22, 2015 07:37:22 #
jcboy3 wrote:
The crop camera image will look like the penny on the left, while the full frame image will look like the penny on the right.
Since there is, you can wait til HFO...
Since there is, you can wait til HFO...
Are you suggesting the picture was taken with two cameras and PP'd?
Jun 22, 2015 07:49:47 #
Toment wrote:
Is there a way to tell if a capture is from a FF or from a crop camera?
Other than EXIF data?
Because if there isn't, I'm not going to wait til HFO to get a new Canon...
Other than EXIF data?
Because if there isn't, I'm not going to wait til HFO to get a new Canon...
It's not unusual for one picture to look better than another, but FF is not necessarily the reason. There are lots of variables. In general, better equipment will give you better images.
Jun 22, 2015 08:23:20 #
Gene51 wrote:
I can usually tell in the printed output. Especially if they are side by side and shot similarly. A crop camera produces an image that needs to be enlarged 50% more to get to the same print size. if you are looking at images on a computer screen, it is very hard to tell.
If you never print larger than 5X7 or 8X10 with heavily cropped images There will be no noticible difference. In a larger print there probably will be. Glass is no doubt much more important. I can guarantee that a 7d with L glass will make better photos that a 1DX with crap off brand glass
Jun 22, 2015 08:39:16 #
jerryc41 wrote:
It's not unusual for one picture to look better than another, but FF is not necessarily the reason. There are lots of variables. In general, better equipment will give you better images.
Jerry I would like to rephrase what you have just said. "Better techniques will give you better images."
Jun 22, 2015 08:49:37 #
camerapapi wrote:
Jerry I would like to rephrase what you have just said. "Better techniques will give you better images."
Let's combine both statements: better equipment and better techniques will result in better images.
Of course, the danger of getting the best equipment is that you won't have good excuses for bad pictures.
Jun 22, 2015 09:19:17 #
jerryc41 wrote:
Of course, the danger of getting the best equipment is that you won't have good excuses for bad pictures.
Yes it eliminates all doubt about where the problem lies.
Jun 22, 2015 11:03:40 #
There is a difference when you compare the pictures from a full frame and crop camera. Whether it justifies the cost of buying one is another story.
For shooting sports, my 24-70 gets a quite a bit wider angle on the full frame, and my 70-200 with 1.4 extender reaches further on the crop frame. I love this combination for football and rugby.
Newspapers dont ask for large pictures so a crop factor is great. But if I am selling a large print from a portrait session then the full frame camera is a better option.
For shooting sports, my 24-70 gets a quite a bit wider angle on the full frame, and my 70-200 with 1.4 extender reaches further on the crop frame. I love this combination for football and rugby.
Newspapers dont ask for large pictures so a crop factor is great. But if I am selling a large print from a portrait session then the full frame camera is a better option.
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