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Jun 6, 2015 06:55:46   #
CLF Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
I see shutter count mentioned in many different topics. There is even software to track it. All this implies there is a point when the camera is going to go belly up due to usage. Never worried about this subject when I shot film. Is it something that requires monitoring or something just to know?

Lead Foot

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Jun 6, 2015 07:06:14   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
CLF wrote:
I see shutter count mentioned in many different topics. There is even software to track it. All this implies there is a point when the camera is going to go belly up due to usage. Never worried about this subject when I shot film. Is it something that requires monitoring or something just to know?

Lead Foot

It's like a lightbulb. It either works, or it doesn't - more or less. It's not something to worry about. If a shutter mechanism dies of old age, it's time to replace the camera. If it stops working in a young camera, just get it replaced. Good cameras are tested to 100,000 - 300,000 actuations, but that's no guarantee.

A good comparison is an engine in a car. If an engine fails completely at 325,000 miles, would you get it repaired or buy a new car?
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This is probably more info than you want.

Shutter Count
http://www.camerashuttercount.com/
http://kentweakley.com/blog/photo-tip-photos-camera/
http://regex.info/exif.cgi
Get Irfanview (free) and also get the plug-ins for it. Start the program, open a photo, click on Image > Information > Exif info.
Get ExifInfo - also free. Unzip and get the icon onto the Desktop. Find a photo and drag it onto the icon. A window will open with loads of info. Look down the list for Shutter Count (or whatever they call it).
http://www.cambridgeincolour.com
http://drchung.new21.net/previewextractor/
http://www.astrojargon.net/EOSInfo.aspx?AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1
http://www.nikonshuttercount.com/
http://myshuttercount.com/
http://www.picmeta.com/products/picture-information-extractor.htm

Canon
According to the list on their site, these are the Canon cameras supported for shutter count.
Canon EOS 1DS Mark II, Canon EOS 1DS Mark II, Canon EOS 5D, Canon EOS 60D, Canon EOS-1D, Canon EOS-1D Mark II, Canon EOS-1D Mark II N, Canon EOS-1Ds, Canon EOS-1Ds Mark II

“Shuttercount” app from Apple for Mac $1.99


http://www.direstudio.com/shuttercount
This will work with the following cameras:

Canon EOS-1D C (requires firmware 1.1.3 or later for correct serial number display)
Canon EOS-1D Mark IV
Canon EOS-1D X
Canon EOS 5D Mark II
Canon EOS 5D Mark III (requires firmware 1.2.1 or later for correct serial number display)
Canon EOS 6D
Canon EOS 7D
Canon EOS 7D Mark II
Canon EOS 50D
Canon EOS 60D
Canon EOS 70D
Canon EOS 100D / Rebel SL1 / Kiss X7
Canon EOS 500D / Rebel T1i / Kiss X3
Canon EOS 550D / Rebel T2i / Kiss X4
Canon EOS 600D / Rebel T3i / Kiss X5
Canon EOS 650D / Rebel T4i / Kiss X6i
Canon EOS 700D / Rebel T5i / Kiss X7i
Canon EOS 1000D / Rebel XS / Kiss F
Canon EOS 1100D / Rebel T3 / Kiss X50
Canon EOS 1200D / Rebel T5 / Kiss X70
http://blog.xhd.nl/?p=1178
http://www.ideiki.com/astro/ Look toward the bottom of the page, and you will see that it shows the shutter count for Canons.
Camerashuttercount.com for Canon EOS 1000D / Canon EOS 1D Mark II / Canon EOS 450D/ Canon EOS 500D / Canon EOS 50d / Canon EOS 5D / Canon EOS-1D / Canon EOS-1D Mark II / Canon EOS-1D Mark II N / Canon EOS-1Ds / Canon EOS-1Ds
http://www.astrojargon.net
http://www.eoscount.com/
http://download.cnet.com/ExifTool/30...-10791213.html
For the 1Ds - http://exphose.com/tm.aspx?m=7&mpage=1&key=&
http://blog.planet5d.com/548
http://www.astrojargon.net



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Jun 6, 2015 07:17:05   #
CLF Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Thanks, Jerry. That is what I kinda thought. It is like everything you mentioned, it will wear out and shutter count may help but it is not the only thing that matters.

I already am in a major learning curve and will leave that one alone.

Lead Foot

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Jun 6, 2015 08:22:35   #
jethro779 Loc: Tucson, AZ
 
"A good comparison is an engine in a car. If an engine fails completely at 325,000 miles, would you get it repaired or buy a new car?"


If it was a 1963 Impala Super Sport Convertible with a 327 Fuel injected engine 4 spd transmission Hell yes I'd get it repaired!!!

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Jun 6, 2015 08:26:20   #
CLF Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Jethro, my brother Jim had that car with a 327/300 hp except it was a hard top. Fast and fun. He claimed the convertible added too much weight.

Lead Foot

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Jun 6, 2015 08:46:27   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
CLF wrote:
I see shutter count mentioned in many different topics. There is even software to track it. All this implies there is a point when the camera is going to go belly up due to usage. Never worried about this subject when I shot film. Is it something that requires monitoring or something just to know?

Lead Foot


The T5 has an expected shutter life of 100,000. An easy way to track is to look at the number of each image . Unless you change the settings they count up sequentially to 9,999 and then start over. Works well enough for your own camera from new. There are other ways of course such as the software mentioned.

If you average 100 shots a week that's 19 years. If you average 1000 shots a week that's only 2 years, but at that rate you would probably want to upgrade from a T5 anyway!

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Jun 6, 2015 11:00:12   #
CLF Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Peter, you are the man. Finally took some pics this morning to test out the software and printer. Prior to that I would take a shot or two to check out what I learned. Learning the new software takes awhile.

Thanks again, Lead Foot

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Jun 6, 2015 11:07:58   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
CLF wrote:
Peter, you are the man. Finally took some pics this morning to test out the software and printer. Prior to that I would take a shot or two to check out what I learned. Learning the new software takes awhile.

Thanks again, Lead Foot


You are welcome and it is a lengthy learning curve. I've had my T3i for just over 3 years now and I 'm at around 13k shutter count .

Still learning new things about the camera and software. Little thing called work gets in the way!

Have fun!

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Jun 6, 2015 11:41:39   #
OddJobber Loc: Portland, OR
 
I rarely check my shutter count. If it works, keep shooting.

OTOH, if buying refurb or used, I would expect a camera with a count of 50,000 to be much lower priced than one with a count of 3,000. (And I did see one advertised with a shutter count of 99,000.)

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Jun 7, 2015 09:00:47   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
CLF wrote:
I see shutter count mentioned in many different topics. There is even software to track it. All this implies there is a point when the camera is going to go belly up due to usage. Never worried about this subject when I shot film. Is it something that requires monitoring or something just to know?

Lead Foot


When you used film shutter actuations were not used as we do now. Some folks grab a camera and shoot the hell of everything in front of them. It was not like that during film days.
Modern cameras have a shutter life expectancy of approximately 150k.
Some cameras fail before and others long after, that is unpredictable but in general expect the shutter to fail if it will after 100,000k and that are a lot of actuations.
Photographers like to know the number of shutter actuations on a refurb or used camera because shutter replacement tends to be expensive. Modern shutter mechanisms are very good in quality and just to mention their quality I will say that a camera with 30k actuations is just beginning to break in. It is simple to figure out that 30k actuations is practically nothing when compared to a shutter life of 150k.
Those cameras I handled with more than 20k actuations performed silky smooth without issues.

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Jun 7, 2015 09:25:20   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
OddJobber wrote:
I rarely check my shutter count. If it works, keep shooting.

OTOH, if buying refurb or used, I would expect a camera with a count of 50,000 to be much lower priced than one with a count of 3,000. (And I did see one advertised with a shutter count of 99,000.)

I never bid or buy until I get a shutter count. I've gotten used and refurbs with under 500 clicks. I'd avoid anything with over 5,000 shutter actuations, since there are always less-used cameras available. A factory test of 200,000 is no guarantee that a camera will get even 50,000.

I should mention that with refurbished bodies, you cannot learn the shutter count till you buy it. Most of my refurbs had under 500 actuations, but a D5100 came with 1,868 - not much at all. The two lowest counts were 44 and 50 for a couple of D3100's.

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Jun 7, 2015 09:57:43   #
authorizeduser Loc: Monroe, Michigan
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I never bid or buy until I get a shutter count. I've gotten used and refurbs with under 500 clicks. I'd avoid anything with over 5,000 shutter actuations, since there are always less-used cameras available. A factory test of 200,000 is no guarantee that a camera will get even 50,000.

I should mention that with refurbished bodies, you cannot learn the shutter count till you buy it. Most of my refurbs had under 500 actuations, but a D5100 came with 1,868 - not much at all. The two lowest counts were 44 and 50 for a couple of D3100's.
I never bid or buy until I get a shutter count. I... (show quote)


Had the gentlemen at my local camera shop tell me that not all Canon cameras can be checked for shutter count and the ones that can be checked cost you a small fee. I bought a mint condition Nikon D300 in the box about 5 months ago with less than 3400 shots. If you do not have to have the latest and greatest, there are deals to be had. :thumbup:

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Jun 7, 2015 10:19:21   #
Past Pro Loc: Spring Hill, Florida
 
jerryc41 wrote:
The two lowest counts were 44 and 50 for a couple of D3100's.


Makes one wonder why they bought a camera in the first place.

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Jun 7, 2015 10:23:34   #
OddJobber Loc: Portland, OR
 
Past Pro wrote:
Makes one wonder why they bought a camera in the first place.


Refurbs.

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Jun 7, 2015 10:45:30   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Past Pro wrote:
Makes one wonder why they bought a camera in the first place.

Some day I'd like to see a good article written by a manufacturer about refurbs. We assume that they were bought and returned, but why? They probably weren't store demos because they get a lot of abuse. I've found refurbished cameras to be a great value.

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