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Dec 9, 2014 20:12:11   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
Depends on what you are looking for. ;)

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Dec 9, 2014 20:20:03   #
Siennarose46 Loc: Pacific NW
 
Not sure if I am on the Sony list. Recently purchased a Sony A6000.

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Dec 9, 2014 21:31:33   #
Jamers Loc: Michigan
 
jpboulware wrote:
I took your shot at touched it up. You might or might not like.


Too much... in my opinion.

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Dec 9, 2014 21:46:40   #
Jamers Loc: Michigan
 
Sony A7 R is a seriously possible addition to my gear along with my Nikon equipment.

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Dec 9, 2014 22:47:51   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
^^^With adaptors you can use all your Nikon glass... :thumbup:

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Dec 9, 2014 23:09:37   #
Jamers Loc: Michigan
 
CHOLLY wrote:
^^^With adaptors you can use all your Nikon glass... :thumbup:


Thank you CHOLLY for your reply, this is my understanding and wonder if using the adapter will have a negative effect on the image quality. I presently shoot with a Nikon D800E, and enlarge per average 16x20 prints.
Considering a second body with high resolution so I don't have to keep changing lens. I have heard good things about the Sony mirror less technology. Still doing my homework. :)

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Dec 9, 2014 23:22:21   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
Jamers, the D800E and A7R have the SAME exact sensor and the image quality is almost identical between the two.

The adaptor will not affect or effect image quality because there are no optical elements, just contact points for communication between the lens and body that won't alter the light path at all.

There are several adaptors available for your intended purpose. :thumbup:

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Dec 10, 2014 08:25:58   #
Jamers Loc: Michigan
 
CHOLLY wrote:
Jamers, the D800E and A7R have the SAME exact sensor and the image quality is almost identical between the two.

The adaptor will not affect or effect image quality because there are no optical elements, just contact points for communication between the lens and body that won't alter the light path at all.

There are several adaptors available for your intended purpose. :thumbup:


Thank you CHOLLY.

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Dec 10, 2014 15:22:07   #
AlohaBob Loc: Los Angeles, CA
 
A77 with Sigma 50MM 1.4. Love it. Please dd me.

dundeelad wrote:
Hi all.

I have been judiciously adding Sony shooters to my buddy list wherever I see them. I now have 82 in my list. We are growing. :thumbup:

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Dec 10, 2014 16:26:27   #
rizer Loc: Long Island, NY
 
Wow, a lot of activity on this thread recently....LOVE IT!!

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Dec 10, 2014 17:48:12   #
Carl 383 Loc: Southampton UK
 
CHOLLY wrote:

Guys... the A77II is a MAJOR improvement over the A77, in almost every respect except the loss of the AF assist lamp and GPS module.

The A77II is a HUGE step up with faster more accurate autofocus, it has MUCH better low light performance, and the increased Buffer alone was reason enough to upgrade.


While I agree with your view overall regarding the A77 II, the AF assist and GPS are both high on my list of desirable features, the increased buffer less so.
The AF assist will enable you to focus in no light not just low light and where there is no contrast - a major loss in my opinion. The GPS is a loss but it can be overcome.
The increased buffer rate is no great feature IMHO - I was brought up on a Canon (sorry for using that word) T90 which had 5fps for as long as your film held out. Film was expensive in relative terms back then so it was rare that I let off more than 3 or 4 shots, in them days we all learned to anticipate the shot, if you didn't get it in those first few shots then you weren't going to get it. Today with electrons being cheap we have become lazy, our fingers resting on the shutter for an age, waiting for the shot. I tend to use the limited burst rate of the A77 in a specific way, with a number of shots of 3 or 4 which means I can get in 5 or 6 bursts at a time - far more than the 12 or so that a resting finger can accomplish and if I don't get my shot then maybe I should shoot in video mode and grab a screen shot.
I'm not decrying the astounding burst rates possible (okay, I am) but for me, anticipating the shot is more important.
The better noise control of the A77 II is a big improvement over the A77 but again not a decision maker for me as it can be dealt with in pp.
The main disappointment for me was no dual card slots, no headphone socket and the fact I already have a battery grip means that there isn't a bargain deal to be had.
Is the A77 II a damp squib? No way! If you're upgrading from an A58 or so, or entering the Sony camp for the first time then it is a phenomenal camera but for me, coming from an A77 it doesn't give me an attack of GAS.
Would I want a no cost upgrade? You bet!
Enjoy it Cholly, I will join you with the A99 II and another 3 months or so is going to take a long time to pass. :thumbup:

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Dec 10, 2014 17:50:26   #
Carl 383 Loc: Southampton UK
 
rizer wrote:
Wow, a lot of activity on this thread recently....LOVE IT!!


Me too. :) :thumbup:

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Dec 10, 2014 19:06:12   #
Racin17 Loc: Western Pa
 
Me three....ane welcome all new people....

Since i am here. Is the emount lense group good to go with not only quality but cost, or is going the adapter route with another glass route (alpha mount for eg). Hope i explained this ok imstill pretty groggy yet from surgery lol.

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Dec 10, 2014 20:25:46   #
lifenprism Loc: Upstate S.C.
 
Carl 383 wrote:
While I agree with your view overall regarding the A77 II, the AF assist and GPS are both high on my list of desirable features, the increased buffer less so.
The AF assist will enable you to focus in no light not just low light and where there is no contrast - a major loss in my opinion. The GPS is a loss but it can be overcome.
The increased buffer rate is no great feature IMHO - I was brought up on a Canon (sorry for using that word) T90 which had 5fps for as long as your film held out. Film was expensive in relative terms back then so it was rare that I let off more than 3 or 4 shots, in them days we all learned to anticipate the shot, if you didn't get it in those first few shots then you weren't going to get it. Today with electrons being cheap we have become lazy, our fingers resting on the shutter for an age, waiting for the shot. I tend to use the limited burst rate of the A77 in a specific way, with a number of shots of 3 or 4 which means I can get in 5 or 6 bursts at a time - far more than the 12 or so that a resting finger can accomplish and if I don't get my shot then maybe I should shoot in video mode and grab a screen shot.
I'm not decrying the astounding burst rates possible (okay, I am) but for me, anticipating the shot is more important.
The better noise control of the A77 II is a big improvement over the A77 but again not a decision maker for me as it can be dealt with in pp.
The main disappointment for me was no dual card slots, no headphone socket and the fact I already have a battery grip means that there isn't a bargain deal to be had.
Is the A77 II a damp squib? No way! If you're upgrading from an A58 or so, or entering the Sony camp for the first time then it is a phenomenal camera but for me, coming from an A77 it doesn't give me an attack of GAS.
Would I want a no cost upgrade? You bet!
Enjoy it Cholly, I will join you with the A99 II and another 3 months or so is going to take a long time to pass. :thumbup:
While I agree with your view overall regarding the... (show quote)



Carl...I couldn't agree with you more. That's exactly why I sent the camera back the first time I tried it. Every now and then I have a situation where I need a second shooter and had always used my Konica/Minolta 7D as a second camera. So I figured with all the improvements on the a77ii, I would give it a try. Well it started out with a price tag of around $1200.00 when I got it. Tried it out for two weeks and was not impressed enough to keep it with a $1200.00 price tag, and considering I would have to spend another $300.00 for a grip (it goes through batteries faster than the original). So that's $1542.00 for a body that puts out the same IQ of the camera I already have. Figured I would continue using the a77 and K/M 7D when needed.
Well my K/M 7D is hitting close to 200,000 clicks and still going strong but we all know it's going to give out anytime now. Most of the people I know with the camera never got close to 100,000 clicks without issues so I'm knocking on wood on that one. My a77 is going on around 50,000 clicks as we speak, and the a99ii still being in prototype mode with no set release date made it all a simple solution with an a77ii w/grip for $300.00 less than what I paid for the body alone the first go around.
I can now put the K/M out to pasture and let the grand kids learn a bit about basic photography with it.
I can also now use the a77ii and have the a77 as a backup or second camera when needed. And both having grips makes the chances of one running out of power much slimmer.
Still plan on getting the a99ii when it hits the shelves or maybe just the a99 original body if the price drops enough to grab my attention.
So you see, the a77ii w/grip for $898.00 made perfect sense to me in my situation.

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Dec 10, 2014 21:56:30   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
When you guys REALLY learn how to use that camera you'll be amazed at all the advances.

BTW Carl, the pop-up flash is used for low light conditions... and the AF works in MUCH darker conditions than the original. MUCH darker and at much greater distances with much better accuracy.

But not only are there more AF points.... 79 compared to 19 on the original, but the ability to control them comes from the A99 AF system with some advances and tweaking so that the A77II AF system is the best that Sony has to offer.

The A77 is a KILLER camera... but the A77II takes it to the next level. :thumbup:

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