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Mar 20, 2012 16:48:52   #
Dawinchi
 
I got a bit carried away with the Lightroom adjustment brush. I like the final effect but my wife says it's too much. What do you think?

Original
Original...

Enhanced
Enhanced...

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Mar 20, 2012 16:53:33   #
betsout06 Loc: Pound Ridge, NY
 
Not too much for me...I like the darker background....the white pedals top left bother me though....can you crop or tine and blur them out? Otherwise .... it's nature!

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Mar 20, 2012 16:56:16   #
donrent Loc: Punta Gorda , Fl
 
Orginal fur me................

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Mar 20, 2012 17:00:52   #
wolfbay Loc: Alpharetta, GA
 
Original for me also. I also find two's the hardest to make interesting. 3,5 objects work better.

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Mar 20, 2012 17:06:40   #
renomike Loc: Reno, Nevada
 
I like the oiginal best too...but would crop out the white at the top.

Mike

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Mar 20, 2012 17:26:18   #
photophly Loc: Old Bridge NJ
 
Original does it for me too.

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Mar 20, 2012 18:31:04   #
Dawinchi
 
Thanks for the comments. I agree about cropping out the white. And thanks Wolfbay for pointing out the 3/5/7 rule; I'd read it somewhere, but it's great to have it pointed out in a picture I took.

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Mar 20, 2012 18:49:33   #
Dawinchi
 
OK, tighter crop to remove the white petals, and more subtle (I hope) editing.

Notes on the editing; first I made the entire image 0 clarity and 0 sharpness, then I set the adjustment brush to 1/2 stop brighter, and 100 clarity and 100 sharpness, and "painted" just the front flower, to simulate a shallower depth of field.

Better?
Better?...

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Mar 20, 2012 22:11:29   #
ziggykor Loc: East Texas
 
Most of these so-called composition rules were set up by people that struggled with art, but loved mathemitics. All they really are is places to start at best. Course, I hate rules because everyone seems to have an exception. Kinda like American's, we believe in law and order and then violate speed limits!

The only real rule you need to worry about in composition is, "does the inclusion of any element add to the image impact"! If it doesn't get rid of it! Even that socalled "Rule of Thirds" doesn't always make the best image.

So with that in mind, what does the flower in the background bring to the image?

I've always thought of composition as this: if it don't add to the image, or takes away from the subject, get rid of it!

By the way, I like what you did in Lightroom.

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Mar 20, 2012 22:18:56   #
wrr Loc: SEK
 
Doesn't matter what we say, you're wife has already won...

Personally I like the treatment !

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Mar 20, 2012 22:43:08   #
betsout06 Loc: Pound Ridge, NY
 
Dawinchi wrote:
OK, tighter crop to remove the white petals, and more subtle (I hope) editing.

Notes on the editing; first I made the entire image 0 clarity and 0 sharpness, then I set the adjustment brush to 1/2 stop brighter, and 100 clarity and 100 sharpness, and "painted" just the front flower, to simulate a shallower depth of field.

WOW...what a great pp tip. Have to try that. Have you upgraded to lightroom 4 yet? I just did...so now I'm touching up my previous "can't do anything else to this" photos. Will try your technique. Thanks

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Mar 21, 2012 06:40:58   #
Dawinchi
 
betsout06, I just installed the trial, and have been playing. I have only used the Canon software until now, and I'm annoyed with myself for not using lightroom before now.

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Mar 21, 2012 06:44:48   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
betsout06 wrote:
Dawinchi wrote:
OK, tighter crop to remove the white petals, and more subtle (I hope) editing.

Notes on the editing; first I made the entire image 0 clarity and 0 sharpness, then I set the adjustment brush to 1/2 stop brighter, and 100 clarity and 100 sharpness, and "painted" just the front flower, to simulate a shallower depth of field.

WOW...what a great pp tip. Have to try that. Have you upgraded to lightroom 4 yet? I just did...so now I'm touching up my previous "can't do anything else to this" photos. Will try your technique. Thanks
quote=Dawinchi OK, tighter crop to remove the whi... (show quote)


Just in case the noobs don't know..you can download literally hundreds of Lightroom "presets" that do different things...one of which is to highlight just a portion of your shot via either a "lighter area" on the subject or a "sharper area" on the subject.

Just google "free lightroom presets" and begin downloading!

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Mar 21, 2012 09:39:24   #
wolfbay Loc: Alpharetta, GA
 
ziggykor wrote:
Most of these so-called composition rules were set up by people that struggled with art, but loved mathemitics. All they really are is places to start at best. Course, I hate rules because everyone seems to have an exception. Kinda like American's, we believe in law and order and then violate speed limits!

The only real rule you need to worry about in composition is, "does the inclusion of any element add to the image impact"! If it doesn't get rid of it! Even that socalled "Rule of Thirds" doesn't always make the best image.

So with that in mind, what does the flower in the background bring to the image?

I've always thought of composition as this: if it don't add to the image, or takes away from the subject, get rid of it!

By the way, I like what you did in Lightroom.
Most of these so-called composition rules were set... (show quote)


I totally agree with you. Most of us are too lazy to ask those really great questions. We want to shoot masterpieces without effort or thought. Sometimes moving just a couple of inches one direction or another can make all the difference.

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Mar 21, 2012 11:48:54   #
betsout06 Loc: Pound Ridge, NY
 
rpavich wrote:
betsout06 wrote:
Dawinchi wrote:
OK, tighter crop to remove the white petals, and more subtle (I hope) editing.

Notes on the editing; first I made the entire image 0 clarity and 0 sharpness, then I set the adjustment brush to 1/2 stop brighter, and 100 clarity and 100 sharpness, and "painted" just the front flower, to simulate a shallower depth of field.

WOW...what a great pp tip. Have to try that. Have you upgraded to lightroom 4 yet? I just did...so now I'm touching up my previous "can't do anything else to this" photos. Will try your technique. Thanks
quote=Dawinchi OK, tighter crop to remove the whi... (show quote)


Just in case the noobs don't know..you can download literally hundreds of Lightroom "presets" that do different things...one of which is to highlight just a portion of your shot via either a "lighter area" on the subject or a "sharper area" on the subject.

Just google "free lightroom presets" and begin downloading!
quote=betsout06 quote=Dawinchi OK, tighter crop ... (show quote)

Thanks for the info....I'm held up in the Charlotte, NC airport...got here at 9am only to find out my flight is at 10pm! Lots of time for tutorials and downloads...You just made my day!

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