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May 19, 2015 13:57:13   #
Gregbera
 
I have A Canon 5D With the flash Speedlight 600 And I was wondering What second flash I could use that would be radio transmitted and compatible with the equipment I have. While also being cost-effective ....
Thank you for responding.
P.S Few months ago I sold my canon Speedlight 430EX. Did I make mistake?

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May 19, 2015 14:00:59   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
Gregbera wrote:
I have A Canon 5D With the flash Speedlight 600 And I was wondering What second flash I could use that would be radio transmitted and compatible with the equipment I have. While also being cost-effective ....
Thank you for responding.
P.S Few months ago I sold my canon Speedlight 430EX. Did I make mistake?


Which 600 do you have?
The 600 EX or the 600EX RT?
If you're in the US it's probably the RT.

And yes, you probably made a mistake selling the 430EX as you can put inexpensive radio receivers on most any speedlight.

No experience with it but a lot of people love Yongnou flashes.
They make a clone of the 600EX RT HERE for $124 and the RT transmitter HERE for $90 that should work with your Canon flash as well.
You still have TTL or manual radio control of the remote flashes from the transmitter on your camera.

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May 19, 2015 15:14:55   #
Gregbera
 
Yes, I have 600EX-RT. And one more silly question. If I have transmitter on my camera, why I need one another?

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May 19, 2015 15:29:15   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
Gregbera wrote:
Yes, I have 600EX-RT. And one more silly question. If I have transmitter on my camera, why I need one another?


Not silly at all.
Thought you wanted both flashes to be off camera.
For $90, the transmitter unit allows you to free up that boring camera-mounted flash you're thinking of using as a trigger to get more interesting lighting.

You could just go with the Yonngnou YN-E3-RT transmitter and use the one light you already have for starters, (or Canon's ST-E3-RT for $264) and add another compatible flash later.

There are a ton of less-expensive, less-capable remote triggers, but your Canon flash has a built in radio system- that's one reason it costs so much.
You should make use of it! As a dedicated Nikon user, I'm jealous!

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May 19, 2015 15:54:39   #
Gregbera
 
Thanks for the quick response. In conclusion, if I will use 600EX-RT on camera to use second flash of the camera is enough for me to buy just this clone of 600EX-RT?

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May 19, 2015 17:22:47   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
Gregbera wrote:
Thanks for the quick response. In conclusion, if I will use 600EX-RT on camera to use second flash of the camera is enough for me to buy just this clone of 600EX-RT?


Sounds like it, according to the specs.
In hindsight, it would have been good to title your thread with "Canon 600EX-RT remote flash question" or something similar to draw out the Canonites who know how to use a flash.

SharpShooter!....Are you listening?
Help your brethren!

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May 20, 2015 09:45:58   #
Bill Emmett Loc: Bow, New Hampshire
 
Just a few days ago there was a similar question posted on the forum. It was about mixing different flash systems. It seems you cannot mix systems, even though they work on the same frequency. Frequency is only the carrier signal, and the flash information, which is unique to the flash system, is carried on the carrier signal. So, if a Canon transmitter is used, it will not fire a "off brand" flash even if the "off brand" has a receiver built in. Many flashes have the capability to fire using another flash, by sensing the light emitted from the mounted flash on the camera. You may want to look at the site:"www.flashhavoc.com" this site will give you some reviews of Chinese flashes, and how they work.

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May 20, 2015 09:48:22   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
Bill Emmett wrote:
Just a few days ago there was a similar question posted on the forum. It was about mixing different flash systems. It seems you cannot mix systems, even though they work on the same frequency. Frequency is only the carrier signal, and the flash information, which is unique to the flash system, is carried on the carrier signal. So, if a Canon transmitter is used, it will not fire a "off brand" flash even if the "off brand" has a receiver built in. Many flashes have the capability to fire using another flash, by sensing the light emitted from the mounted flash on the camera. You may want to look at the site:"www.flashhavoc.com" this site will give you some reviews of Chinese flashes, and how they work.

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Love that site!
Thanks for the reminder, Bill.
Lost the book mark with my last computer swap.
http://flashhavoc.com/

The Yongnou literature states:
"Two-way 2.4G radio communication, fully compatible with Canon ST-E3-RT/600EX-RT"

Flash Havoc review says the same of the Yongnou YN-E3-RT controller HERE.

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May 20, 2015 14:20:50   #
George Kravis
 
Case in point, I use the ST-E2 controller, mounted in the 60D hot shoe, to fire as many as three Canon flashes, set on slave. They can be set off remotely with the camera's "Drive Mode" set on the 2 sec delay and triggered with the hand held RC-5.
As an alternative, instead of using the ST-E2, either the 580 or the 600 flash can be mounted in the hot and set on "Master" to trigger other canon flashes set on "Slave", also using the RC-5.

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May 20, 2015 14:38:48   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
George Kravis wrote:
Case in point, I use the ST-E2 controller, mounted in the 60D hot shoe, to fire as many as three Canon flashes, set on slave. They can be set off remotely with the camera's "Drive Mode" set on the 2 sec delay and triggered with the hand held RC-5.
As an alternative, instead of using the ST-E2, either the 580 or the 600 flash can be mounted in the hot and set on "Master" to trigger other canon flashes set on "Slave", also using the RC-5.


If I'm not mistaken, the 600EX-RT is backwards compatible and can also be controlled by the ST-E2 (non-RT model) or any other compatible flash that uses the infrared signal.

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May 20, 2015 21:25:54   #
CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:

There are a ton of less-expensive, less-capable remote triggers, but your Canon flash has a built in radio system- that's one reason it costs so much.
You should make use of it! As a dedicated Nikon user, I'm jealous!


Goofy - don't be TOO jealous - those Canon folks limped along with a truly horrible flash system until the 600 series came along. Canon owed their customers a good system after suffering with expensive flash units that had neither a PC connection nor an optical slave function.

For years, Canon shooters had to buy used Nikon SB-28's, SB-80dx's, or SB-800's to get the Pocket Wizard connection or an optical slave. They deserve the new 600 series units for their patience.

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May 20, 2015 22:26:14   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
CaptainC wrote:
Goofy - don't be TOO jealous - those Canon folks limped along with a truly horrible flash system until the 600 series came along. Canon owed their customers a good system after suffering with expensive flash units that had neither a PC connection nor an optical slave function.

For years, Canon shooters had to buy used Nikon SB-28's, SB-80dx's, or SB-800's to get the Pocket Wizard connection or an optical slave. They deserve the new 600 series units for their patience.


I'm very aware of the disparity of the systems.
Have a good friend who shoots Canon and was seriously thinking about coming to the "Dark Side" for that reason alone. She's always borrowing my Nikon flashes. Two of my SB 80DX's are on permanent loan. She finally got a 600EX-RT but still doesn't have any RT controllers.

Observation ... Are there more Nikon shooters who know how to use flash or is it just the non-descriptive title of this thread?

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Jan 22, 2019 11:40:01   #
uhaas2009
 
I change my flash to godex-flashpoint because I have benefits like 2.4ghz vs 433 mbz. I used one flash on camera what I can use as trigger and adjust settings on external flash or use it as flash too.
If the Nikon can’t see the other flash it will not flash at all, this is a problem what I don’t have with godox.
Still godex build in the Nikon trigger.....
Before I used pocket wizard, Nikon flash......

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Jan 22, 2019 12:17:21   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
uhaas2009 wrote:
I change my flash to godex-flashpoint because I have benefits like 2.4ghz vs 433 mbz. I used one flash on camera what I can use as trigger and adjust settings on external flash or use it as flash too.
If the Nikon can’t see the other flash it will not flash at all, this is a problem what I don’t have with godox.
Still godex build in the Nikon trigger.....
Before I used pocket wizard, Nikon flash......


This thread is more than 3 years old now. Times and equipment have changed. I like Godox now too. They make the most extensive range of flash equipment on the market.

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Jan 22, 2019 17:06:38   #
uhaas2009
 
....LOL.....sorry, because I didn't realise the date.....I'm happy too with the Godox. I still fight with the Sekonic Light Meter, especial my $3000 Nikon camera don't have wireless remote Trigger build in. Nikon sells it separate for $200 and it's brakes easily, too. .....lol....I hope you got a laugh out of this.....Happy Shooting

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