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Just my thoughts
May 5, 2015 10:39:22 #
I have been following the various conversations on exposure. To me, it sounds like people are trying to make it more complicated than it actually is. Being "old school" translate that as days before digital. I picked my film for the lowest ASA (ISO for those of you from Rio Linda) and adjusted my shutter speed and f/stop as needed. It sounds like folks are trying to analyze this to death. Crap, you have the image right in front of you, look at it and make any adjustments needed. I also realize at times this is not practical. I look forward to your torrent of thoughts.
May 5, 2015 10:54:16 #
I was also deeply entrenched in the film era. I was perfectly happy there and saw no need for photographic art to be digitally "fixed". I agree with GreenReaper's thoughts.
May 5, 2015 10:54:29 #
If what you are saying, is that you are a curmudgeon on manual....., That's cool!! :lol:
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May 5, 2015 10:58:58 #
rjaywallace wrote:
I was also deeply entrenched in the film era. I was perfectly happy there and saw no need for photographic art to be digitally "fixed". I agree with GreenReaper's thoughts.
I was also a long time film user, but I did plenty of "fixing" in the darkroom, and doing it on the computer is just an extension of that.
May 5, 2015 11:25:20 #
JohnSwanda wrote:
I was also a long time film user, but I did plenty of "fixing" in the darkroom, and doing it on the computer is just an extension of that.
And a heck of a lot easier.
May 5, 2015 11:38:04 #
GreenReaper wrote:
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I think it's just a case of to many choices with digital. And all these choices and the pictures therefrom are essentially free with digital. With film, mistakes just cost to much, plus there was no live view in the dark ages, so you didn't knoe the results until the contact sheet. So there was a lot of investment in time and money which made you learn quicker about exposure.
May 5, 2015 11:41:14 #
GreenReaper wrote:
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The thing is that it is more complicated. With film you made a ASA/ISO decision once every 36 shots or you put up with the annoyance of changing films in mid roll. With digital you can change the ISO for every shot and to add to the confusion you can set the camera to change the ISO automatically. Besides that a large percentage of 'photographers' treat the camera, not as a computerized picture taking machine, but as a picture taking computer. Think about it.
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May 5, 2015 11:47:14 #
Color print film had a lot of latitude (dynamic range). If you were off a stop or two the lab fixed it for you. With digital you have to correct your mistakes yourself so you are more aware of them.
May 5, 2015 12:06:09 #
MarkD wrote:
Color print film had a lot of latitude (dynamic range). If you were off a stop or two the lab fixed it for you. With digital you have to correct your mistakes yourself so you are more aware of them.
Amen to that!!
I'll take it about ten steps further than that.
90% of what I see posted here leads me to believe that those posters really don't know what they are doing.
And I'll bet 90% of those all think they were real film studs and been doing it for forty years!!!
It really is...., the older I get...., the better I was!!!!
But WHAT have you done lately?!?! :lol: :lol:
You don't have to know how to shoot to be an expert, that's obvious. And it's soooo easy with digital!!!! :lol:
......just my thoughts......
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May 5, 2015 12:11:58 #
JohnSwanda wrote:
I was also a long time film user, but I did plenty of "fixing" in the darkroom, and doing it on the computer is just an extension of that.
And, WAY easier and WAY less smelly. And after you're done there's no waste chemical (especially fixer) problem. My enitre Computer System/ spare/ laptop and printer take less room than my enlarger did. And it doesn't permanently take away a bathroom.
May 5, 2015 12:37:38 #
SharpShooter wrote:
Amen to that!! br I'll take it about ten steps fur... (show quote)
Some of those "film studs" weren't getting their exposures right back in their film days either. Although those who made a living from photography generally did - they had to, if they wanted to make it in the business.
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May 5, 2015 12:52:09 #
mcveed wrote:
The thing is that it is more complicated. With film you made a ASA/ISO decision once every 36 shots or you put up with the annoyance of changing films in mid roll. With digital you can change the ISO for every shot and to add to the confusion you can set the camera to change the ISO automatically. Besides that a large percentage of 'photographers' treat the camera, not as a computerized picture taking machine, but as a picture taking computer. Think about it.
That depended on the film used. Ilford made a b&w film which allowed multiple ISO settings on the same roll.
May 5, 2015 13:18:01 #
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GreenReaper wrote:
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I find with digital its 1000 times easier than with film, why? because I see the result right away and can adjust if necessary.
As far as making it complicated-I think that some people just like the technical side of photography, they like technology and want to talk about it, which is okay, I think.
Roughly speaking some people are engineers and some are artists by nature.
May 5, 2015 16:57:24 #
There is so much written about photography that you get both 'How difficult it is' and 'How simple is was or is'. It is now a bigger industry than actually selling photographs. It doesn't help that every month there is a new 'Must Have' that is 'The answer' to everyone's needs. Apparently photography gets easier if one uses the damn camera,,,,
May 5, 2015 18:22:57 #
SharpShooter wrote:
It really is...., the older I get...., the better I was!!!!
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It really is...., the older I get...., the better I was!!!!
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Some days I think the same thing.
I still have an image in my web page link below I shot when I was 17
(almost 43 years ago).
No meter in the camera, one frame. Boom!
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