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Mar 15, 2012 08:57:03   #
Carl A Loc: Homosassa FL
 
Misspelled words. We all misspell words now and then.
Yes I know how to spell Canon. So let's not critcize
because we mess up sometimes

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Mar 15, 2012 09:05:40   #
Roger Hicks Loc: Aquitaine
 
Dear Carl,

True, but it's a reasonable courtesy to proof-read what we've written. And, fair or not, people who consistently post mis-spelled or ungrammatical posts do tend to forfeit credibility. There's a difference between the occasional mistake (which, as you say, we all make)and illiteracy or laziness.

Cheers,

R.

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Mar 15, 2012 09:14:45   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
Roger Hicks wrote:
Dear Carl,

True, but it's a reasonable courtesy to proof-read what we've written. And, fair or not, people who consistently post mis-spelled or ungrammatical posts do tend to forfeit credibility. There's a difference between the occasional mistake (which, as you say, we all make)and illiteracy or laziness.

Cheers,

R.


:thumbup: especially in the age of browser spell-checkers.

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Mar 15, 2012 10:09:37   #
docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado
 
rpavich wrote:
Roger Hicks wrote:
Dear Carl,

True, but it's a reasonable courtesy to proof-read what we've written. And, fair or not, people who consistently post mis-spelled or ungrammatical posts do tend to forfeit credibility. There's a difference between the occasional mistake (which, as you say, we all make)and illiteracy or laziness.

Cheers,

R.


:thumbup: especially in the age of browser spell-checkers.


there is a browser spell checker???

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Mar 15, 2012 10:15:53   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
docrob wrote:
rpavich wrote:
Roger Hicks wrote:
Dear Carl,

True, but it's a reasonable courtesy to proof-read what we've written. And, fair or not, people who consistently post mis-spelled or ungrammatical posts do tend to forfeit credibility. There's a difference between the occasional mistake (which, as you say, we all make)and illiteracy or laziness.

Cheers,

R.


:thumbup: especially in the age of browser spell-checkers.


there is a browser spell checker???
quote=rpavich quote=Roger Hicks Dear Carl, br b... (show quote)


go to google and search "I E spell" and you will see what I use; also just google "browser spell checker" and see all available.

A browser spell checker is just that...it does spell checking when you are in a browser like Word does when you have a doc open.

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Mar 15, 2012 10:30:43   #
docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado
 
rpavich wrote:
docrob wrote:
rpavich wrote:
Roger Hicks wrote:
Dear Carl,

True, but it's a reasonable courtesy to proof-read what we've written. And, fair or not, people who consistently post mis-spelled or ungrammatical posts do tend to forfeit credibility. There's a difference between the occasional mistake (which, as you say, we all make)and illiteracy or laziness.

Cheers,

R.


:thumbup: especially in the age of browser spell-checkers.


there is a browser spell checker???
quote=rpavich quote=Roger Hicks Dear Carl, br b... (show quote)


go to google and search "I E spell" and you will see what I use; also just google "browser spell checker" and see all available.

A browser spell checker is just that...it does spell checking when you are in a browser like Word does when you have a doc open.
quote=docrob quote=rpavich quote=Roger Hicks De... (show quote)


your so kind

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Mar 15, 2012 11:00:29   #
Julian Loc: Sarasota, FL
 
Roger Hicks wrote:
Dear Carl,

True, but it's a reasonable courtesy to proof-read what we've written. And, fair or not, people who consistently post mis-spelled or ungrammatical posts do tend to forfeit credibility. There's a difference between the occasional mistake (which, as you say, we all make)and illiteracy or laziness.

Cheers,

R.


What is "mis-spelled"? Perhaps you mean "misspelled"

Cheers!

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Mar 15, 2012 12:25:59   #
Roger Hicks Loc: Aquitaine
 
Julian wrote:
What is "mis-spelled"? Perhaps you mean "misspelled"

Dear Julian,

Or perhaps you need a decent dictionary. Try the Oxford English Dictionary, second edition, volume IX, page 893, which is generally accepted as the arbiter in these matters. Their lead spelling has the hyphen; in the examples, it appears both hyphenated and non-hyphenated.

As noted, we all make mistakes, but trying to 'correct' something that isn't a mistake is not a good idea.

Cheers,

R.

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Mar 15, 2012 13:00:18   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
Roger Hicks wrote:
Julian wrote:
What is "mis-spelled"? Perhaps you mean "misspelled"

Dear Julian,

Or perhaps you need a decent dictionary. Try the Oxford English Dictionary, second edition, volume IX, page 893, which is generally accepted as the arbiter in these matters. Their lead spelling has the hyphen; in the examples, it appears both hyphenated and non-hyphenated.

As noted, we all make mistakes, but trying to 'correct' something that isn't a mistake is not a good idea.

Cheers,

R.
quote=Julian What is "mis-spelled"? Per... (show quote)


Roger,
FYI, it appears that in the current edition it's not hyphenated nor is it hyphenated in my Oxford Concise English Dictionary.

The 2nd Edition that you cited is now almost 20 years old and the 3rd edition has been released digitally and doesn't hyphenate it.

It's entriely possible that the spelling (hyphenation or not) has changed in the interim as language is constantly changing of course.

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Mar 15, 2012 13:06:35   #
Roger Hicks Loc: Aquitaine
 
rpavich wrote:

Roger,
FYI, it appears that in the current edition it's not hyphenated nor is it hyphenated in my Oxford Concise English Dictionary.

The 2nd Edition that you cited is now almost 20 years old and the 3rd edition has been released digitally and doesn't hyphenate it.

It's entirely possible that the spelling (hyphenation or not) has changed in the interim as language is constantly changing of course.

Indeed, the lead spelling may well have changed, but that does not invalidate the old spelling. While language undoubtedly changes, it is not realistic to expect someone to change a perfectly valid spelling, that they have used since they were taught it at school, merely because it is no longer fashionable

Cheers,

R.

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Mar 15, 2012 13:12:14   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
Roger Hicks wrote:
rpavich wrote:

Roger,
FYI, it appears that in the current edition it's not hyphenated nor is it hyphenated in my Oxford Concise English Dictionary.

The 2nd Edition that you cited is now almost 20 years old and the 3rd edition has been released digitally and doesn't hyphenate it.

It's entirely possible that the spelling (hyphenation or not) has changed in the interim as language is constantly changing of course.

Indeed, the lead spelling may well have changed, but that does not invalidate the old spelling. While language undoubtedly changes, it is not realistic to expect someone to change a perfectly valid spelling, that they have used since they were taught it at school, merely because it is no longer fashionable

Cheers,

R.
quote=rpavich br Roger, br FYI, it appears that ... (show quote)


Roger...

It's not about being fashionable...spelling actually DOES change over time...it's not that the hypehenated spelling is an alternate, but that it's not correct spelling any longer.

If that were the case I could make the same argument for spelling the word "old" as "olde" and say that it's valid because it's appeared in the dictionary at one time, but of course that's not true.

Quoting the OED themselves:

Quote:
Frequently asked questions

Not like other dictionaries: a brief introduction to the OED

The OED is not just a very large dictionary: it is also a historical dictionary, the most complete record of the English language ever assembled. It traces a word from its beginnings (which may be in Old or Middle English) to the present, showing the varied and changing ways in which it has been used and illustrating the changes with quotations which add to the historical and linguistic record.

This can mean that the first sense shown is long obsolete, and that the modern use falls much later in the entry.
Frequently asked questions br br Not like other d... (show quote)

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Mar 15, 2012 13:20:40   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
My daughter is a "Gramando" ...Grammar Commando

I usually don't flinch (much) when I see words spelled incorrectly or overdone apostorphies or incorrect usage of your & you're. My biggest complaint is lack of punctuation. Makes it hard to know where one sentence ends and the other begins. One thing to keep in mind, some of the people here are not native English speakers.

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Mar 15, 2012 14:04:43   #
tkhphotography Loc: Gresham, Or, not Seattle
 
Roger Hicks wrote:
Dear Carl,

True, but it's a reasonable courtesy to proof-read what we've written. And, fair or not, people who consistently post mis-spelled or ungrammatical posts do tend to forfeit credibility. There's a difference between the occasional mistake (which, as you say, we all make)and illiteracy or laziness.

Cheers,

R.

http://www.antimoon.com/forum/t3030.htm

and even then people differ on what is correct or not.

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Mar 15, 2012 15:13:42   #
Roger Hicks Loc: Aquitaine
 
rpavich wrote:
Roger...

It's not about being fashionable...spelling actually DOES change over time...it's not that the hypehenated spelling is an alternate, but that it's not correct spelling any longer.
. . .
This can mean that the first sense shown is long obsolete, and that the modern use falls much later in the entry.
[/quote]

Sorry, don't agree. Consistent spelling is a relatively recent invention, prompted by the rise of dictionaries. Old spellings remain valid long after they have ceased to be everyday.

Note too the phrase 'long obsolete'. Do you regard 20 years as 'long obsolete'? I don't think many would agree with you.

Cheers,

R.

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Mar 15, 2012 15:59:00   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
Roger Hicks wrote:
I don't think many would agree with you.

Cheers,

R.


Read carefully...the words you disagree with are a statement from the Oxford English Dictionary...not my words...that quote was from them

You are disagreeing with the source you cited.

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